RSL Academy

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  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    http://www.soccerwire.com/news/othe...of-operations-martin-vasquez-signs-extension/

    Sandy, Utah (Via Real Salt Lake) – Real Salt Lake and Grande Sports World have announced that Martin Vasquez has signed a five-year contract extension to remain Head Coach and Director of Soccer Operations for the U.S. Soccer Development Academy U-16 and U-18 teams of the Real Salt Lake-Arizona Academy.
    In addition to his roles with the burgeoning RSL-Arizona program, Vasquez will also serve as the Director of Soccer for Grande Sports World and Grande Sports Academy, the home of the RSL-AZ Academy, based in Casa Grande, Arizona.
     
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  2. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
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  3. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
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    Why does this make me think, "what a brown noser"?
     
  4. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
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  5. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Hernandez, Riggs Lennon, and Ive Burnett are the three I'd pick to keep an eye on. Riggs is a shooting star and it will be interesting to see what develops for him in Europe. Ive has some speed, and good skill and was predicted to be an RSL first teamer from the time he joined the academy. Hernandez just scores goals.
     
  6. CaptainD

    CaptainD Member

    Oct 20, 2014
    The RSL academy program sounds fantastic. But it is $59,500/year! The language is such that they offer limited scholarships...etc. Does anyone know how limited?
     
  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
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    @Toddsoccerdad
     
  8. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
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    I didn't realize it was that much. I can imagine the cost of operation is pretty high, but with such a price RSL is severely handicapping the amount of talent that can funnel through.
     
  9. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    RSL doesn't control all that much
    It's Grande Sports World and we've paid to be the team associated.
     
  10. radsoc

    radsoc Member

    May 24, 2012
    Las Vegas
    The best players pay nothing. Many good players are on scholarship and pay a fraction of that amount. That said there are many on the elite teams that pay full price. The majority of those will have a shot at a college scholarship but no real shot at the first team or Monarchs.
     
  11. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    It wouldn't surprise me if that's how a lot of the academies are currently. Eventually, I would hope we can start churning out enough talent that the sale of those players starts to make enough to make academy free or extremely inexpensive.
     
  12. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
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    I wasn't aware of that. I always figured RSL owned the academy.

    Some players develop later. It's very realistic that many players are missed with such a high price.
     
  13. elkaholic

    elkaholic Member+

    May 28, 2009
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    Real Salt Lake
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    I've been saying for years that the high cost of club soccer is pricing out kids that may have developed into good players.
     
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  14. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    You don't think white suburban yuppie kids are the future of the USMNT?
     
  15. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
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    Besides the prospect of getting players up to the first team - details of Matt Miazga's international move to Chelsea illustrate the financial upside of a good academy (and luck of a really good player emerging). Don't think RSL made quite as much off of Salcedo, nor will Saucedo be quite so lucrative given that the loan contract probably already includes a number for a buy-out.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. radsoc

    radsoc Member

    May 24, 2012
    Las Vegas
    For this to happen RSL needs to give first team chances to young academy players. There are zero academy players with the first team in pre season this year. If RSL wants to truly develop youth players they need to change that. I know there is the Monarchs and there are a few academy players with them for a few days but that is not enough. There should be 5-6 players with the Monarchs for all of pre season, 1-2 best players (regardless of age) with the first team for pre season, and every week there should be 3-4 academy players with the Monarchs during the season. If they want to take development seriously they need to act like it. The first team management/coaches never watch the academy play. If they don't start taking it seriously they will lose the players to college soccer and lose their chance to make money off them.
     
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  17. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    or, they can take it seriously and continue to lose them to the Liga Mexico. The organization must be feeling a bit gun shy regarding the academy right now.
     
  18. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    yeah, cuz RSL totally gave Saucedo and Salcedo ample opportunities with the first team...
     
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  19. SALTLAKEJAKE

    SALTLAKEJAKE Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Sugarhood
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    Well, this isn't true at all.

    Jordan Allen?
    Justen Glad?
    Lalo Fernandez?
    Danilo Acosta?
    Phanuel Kavita?
    Fito Ovalle?

    ANNNNNND, I know for a fact that the staff is very aware of the academy and the players in it. They make trips down a couple of times a year as well as have Andy down there often.
     
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  20. SALTLAKEJAKE

    SALTLAKEJAKE Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Sugarhood
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    Real Salt Lake
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    #720 SALTLAKEJAKE, Feb 1, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2016
    This is a little bit of a rimshot. Both players got minutes. Both players had/have aspirations to play in Mexico. Putting all the blame on the FO in either case is a misrepresentation of what actually happened.

    Also, we get a ton of money in both cases and with Carlos we got rid of an absolute cancer......not mad.
     
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  21. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
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    Salcedo was first off the bench and told he could have the starting position the next season. That's a pretty damn good opportunity for a player that young.
     
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  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats fair
    though being "first off the bench" as a CB is pretty much like being 5th string FW...

    The Saucedo one, though, is just flat out mismanagement by RSL. Despite the results, the staff kept plugging in Gil when Saucedo was just sitting there. Nothing drove me more nuts than watching Gil play AM at Guatemala for CCL while Saucdeo was forced to play an unnatural wing position.

    Further, Cassar would just sit on a last sub until the 90th minute in many games last year. Give Saucdeo 10 ********ing minutes.
     
  23. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think radsoc was alluding to the fact that there aren't any CURRENT academy players with the first team. I think its a valid criticism. Sending players to get that experience would be super beneficial, IMO. In fact, I'm a bit perplexed why RSL didn't group themselves more with the Monarchs. Give these kids the opportunity to show you that they are capable of playing at that level.
     
  24. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
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    There are a number of them practicing and playing with the Monarchs right now. I would expect to see some players join RSL when they head down to Tucson and Grande in the next couple weeks. Keep in mind, being down in AZ, joining up with RSL for the full pre-season would mean leaving school.
     
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  25. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i forgot about the casa grande leg of preseason
    that makes more sense to not pull in academy players yet.

    I'm still perplexed by the Monarchs separate preseason though. If they truly want a pyramid setup for player development/track, then you should take advantage of opportunities to have the close groups work together.
     
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