RSL 2017 Game 33: Salt Lake at Colorado, Sun. 15 Oct. 5:30 MDT

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  1. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got it! We are down a goal, need a goal, and Petke does not go to the guy who has proven himself as a goal scorer in every league he has ever played in. Don't misunderstand me I get that Yura has had a bad year. But with 20 minutes left in your season you go with Bofo? That Up is just plain stupid.
     
  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. UPinSLC

    UPinSLC Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Petke's opinion >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your opinion
     
  4. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the playoffs < out of the playoffs.
     
  5. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is why we didn't play Yura. He's scored 2 goals from July on. You know, that time you should really be in your stride. For such a 'proven scorer' he's done nothing in the second half of the year. Please enlighten us on how Yura would've saved the day. Whenever he's been put on, he's been bad. Somehow he's slower than the people that have been in game for 70+ minutes. Loves to wander out of position, so that when we do try and cross, he's not there. Also slow to even get into the attack, so once again nobody to cross to. When he wonders offside, he takes his sweet time getting back, which has ruined any sort of quick counter when we steal the ball and see that we cant even release him.

    So please, explain what he's been doing that has been right? I'm talking from July onward. It hasn't been scoring goals. It's not assists. He does manage to get a few good looks, and Mr. 'only needs one chance' proceeds to blow said chance. How is that the entire organization and casual fan can seem to notice how bad he's been, but you're still the one clinging to him being the savior of the season? He's done nothing in several months to think anything will change.
     
  6. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    ******** you!
     
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  7. TheBiff

    TheBiff Member+

    Apr 8, 2011
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Not 15's not 15
    #1 Lennon should've been pulled at half time
    #1.5 I don't understand why you'd keep sending slow floating balls into a packed 18 when the first 20 times you tried it failed
     
  8. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like that's the go to for a lot of teams. For whatever reason as time winds down, everyone gets dumb with their tactics. Hey let's do that thing that has a very low chance of scoring! And lets do it for 15 mins straight!
     
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  9. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't watch. Sounds like the right choice.
     
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  10. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    50 crosses. No #9. One or two crosses were dangerous because they were on the ground. Really, really missed Sava.
     
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  11. Ivensor

    Ivensor Member

    Nov 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I gotta admit, I'm with @georg on this one. Sure, Yura's been bad since July. Abysmally bad, considering his DP salary. But are you really going to argue that Yura is worse than Horst as a forward? I don't buy it. Even an out-of-shape and disinterested Yura creates more opportunities than Horst, I think.
     
  12. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's insanity...but its also our offense without Savarino. It's what we did before we acquired him.
     
  13. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was back east and had no opportunity to watch this one. Per the stats we dominated the game, which is counter-intuitive (except the no goals part) given no Savarino. What happened? I saw in earlier posts that Timmy had something to with it. Were we just shooting inaccurately as usual?
     
  14. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did not watch the game but, given what I've seen from highlights and read, yeah Horst was the better option. Why? Because the cRapids were sitting in and RSL had resorted to whipping in crosses. Yura is shit in the air. I still have no idea how he scored that first goal of the season against LA, but he is shit in the air. Horst is better.

    Also, what in the last few performances from Yura has made you think he would do anything? The guy shouldn't be in the 18, IMO. ******** it, not subbing him in isn't an excuse
     
  15. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except that assist to beckeman to tie our last game with LA.

    Didnt watch the game because im out of state. However, Horst instead of Yura sounds interesting. Colorado already knows RSL's players and the positions they usually play. Why not change things up and try Horst up front? If Yura had played up front we'd be bitchin' about how he still doesnt score.
     
  16. KendaReal

    KendaReal Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I too thought that Yura should have come on just to throw every offensive option we have at Colorado. However, clearly Petke thinks that whatever Yura is doing (or not doing) in training doesn't warrant a single minute on the field and and even not knowing exactly what that is I have to go with Petke.
     
  17. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so much this
    If we're down 1-0 in a game that we desperately need a point in and our manager, who has given ample chances to most anyone on this roster, decides Yura isn't the right choice - well, that's all you really need to know.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated RMC stats (only minor changes after this game):



    Records


    Overall (W-D-L) Real lead 17-10-13, 49 GF, 38 GA

    Games in Colorado Rapids lead, 10-5-5, 25 GF, 18 GA

    Games in Utah Real lead 12-5-3, 31 GF, 13 GA

    Margin of Victory, Real 4 Real 5 : 1 Rapids, 2014-09-19

    Margin of Victory, Rapids 2 Rapids 2 : 0 Real, 4 times; Rapids 3 : 1 Real 2015-07-11


    Scoring, Career


    Total Goals, combined 6 Saborio

    Goals, Real 6 Saborio

    Goals, Rapids 3 Casey, Cummings

    Assists, combined 4 Morales

    Assists, Real 4 Morales

    Assists, Rapids 3 Cooke


    Scoring, Single Season


    Goals, Real 3 Cunningham (2006), Morales (2014)

    Goals, Rapids 2 Ben Dayan (2005), Hernandez (2006), D.Brown (2013), Gatt (2017)


    Penalty Kicks


    2006 Game 1 Cunningham

    2006 Game 3 Cunningham

    2008 Game 1 C. Gomez

    2010 Game 2 Saborio

    2013 Game 3 Saborio

    2014 Game 1 Morales

    2017 Game 1 Movsisyan

    2017 Game 2 Silva


    Goalkeeping


    GAA, Rapids 0.86 Coundoul (Minimum 5 apps)

    GAA, Real 0.76 Rimando (Minimum 5 apps)

    Shutouts, Rapids 3 Cannon, Pickens

    Shutouts, Real 9 Rimando

    Shutout minutes, consecutive, Real 331 2007 Game 2 through 2008 Game 1

    Shutout minutes, consecutive, Rapids 438 2010 Game 2 through 2012 Game 3


    Appearances


    Appearances, combined 33 Beckerman (10 Rapids, 23 Real)

    Appearances, Rapids 14 Cooke, Cummings, Mastroeni, Moor

    Appearances, Real 27 Rimando

    Starts, combined 32 Beckerman (10 Rapids, 22 Real)

    Starts, Rapids 14 Mastroeni, Moor

    Starts, Real 27 Rimando

    Minutes, combined 2885 Beckerman (871 Rapids, 2014 Real)

    Minutes, Rapids 1260 Moor

    Minutes, Real 2375 Rimando

    Appearing in RMC for both teams Ballouchy, Beckerman, Borchers, Cunningham, Gil, Harris, Kotschau, Mathis, Wingert

    RMC Titles Won 10 Beckerman

    RMC Titles Lost 6 Casey, Cummings, Mastroeni


    Discipline


    Ejections, Rapids 1 Denton, Gordon, Watts

    Ejections, Real 1 Acosta, Russell, Olave, Harris, Sequera, Jaime, Maund, Cassar (HC)

    Cautions, total 9 Beckerman (3 Rapids, 6 Real)

    Cautions, Rapids 4 Burling, Freeman

    Cautions, Real 6 Beckerman

    Most cards, single game, combined 10 August 8, 2006 (6 Rapids, 4 Real; 8 yellow, 2 red)

    Most cards, single game, Rapids 6 August 8, 2006 (5 yellow, 1 red)

    Most cards, single game, Real 4 5 times (4 times 3 yellow 1 red, 1 time 4 yellow)

    Most consecutive games with a card, Rapids 4 Burling

    Most consecutive games with a card, Real 3 Espindola
     
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  19. Lizzie Bee

    Lizzie Bee Member+

    Jul 27, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lizzie Bee's 15, since 15 provided 0:

    1. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    2. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    3. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    4. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    5. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    6. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    7. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    8. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    9. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    10. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    11. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    12. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    13. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    14. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
    15. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
     
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  20. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no matter what I gush over Rusnak at least once in those things.
    7/10. Good effort, but needs improvement.
     
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  21. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So... With another player like Rusnak, we'd deserve to be in the playoffs?
     
  22. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that player was a forward, no doubt. I think that was one of the big things lacking this season.
     
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  23. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not even Waibel can overlook how the single most important position to fill is a CF for Petke's system, right? This won't be reliving the ongoing CB of the prior two off-seasons, right? RIGHT?!?





    right?
     
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  24. JLaw

    JLaw Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    Happy Valley
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This season yes our biggest hole atm is CF. That being said and looking at next year, does that remain true? I get that Silva isn't really up to snuff and we literally have 0 depth but with Beckerman another year older and Mullholland and Sunny being who they are I think CM might being the biggest need this off season.
     
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  25. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no way CM is the biggest need. We literally don't have a forward. CM should be 2nd priority, but I don't see how you can look at having 0 forwards of worth, and saying that's less of a need than having Sunny/Mulholland in the middle.
     

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