I know this thread is long and I haven't had time to read a lot of it for the Senate election. I just decided to stop in here real quick to make a comment post election. I live in the south (suburban Atlanta to be exact) and I was happy to see the results this morning (of Moore losing). I'm also a white, straight, Christian male that wants to point out that not everyone in the south is the stereotypical Roy Moore type. Yes, I would side with Bono and Jimmy Carter any day. I know that I'm also a minority in my thinking (swing left) on a lot of things down here but it was very nice to see Jones win. I'm proud of Alabama!
Interesting splits here from 2012v2017: Black vote: share went up 1 pt, margin up 1 pt Born again white: share down 3 pts, 18 pts less GOP Other white: share up 1 pt, went from -44 Dem to +10 Dem Other non-white: share up 1 pt. We don’t know their margins because of small size and rounding issues, but interestingly, they were no better/worse than 10 pts on either side of dead even. The black vote was the clear MVP, but the Beckys turned up...relatively speaking...and were the biggest reason for the victory.
When you start telling Becky or Staci that they might have to carry their fling's, sidepiece's or Chad's bratty brats to term and raise that thing while trying to catch them for child support, they become militant feminazis pretty quick.
Christ, people in Oklahoma & Texas don't even dress like that. Leather Vest with a tie & a stetson? Jesus, that's bannon's idea of a "Hangin' Judge"
Suburban Atlanta is a whole 'nother world than Alabama, isn't it? I guess it depends on the burb, but I think of suburban Atlanta as being something like DC's Virginia suburbs, which do not make me think of Alabama.
Because every generation has to discover first hand why those guys are terrible. It's like how every freshman class at college has to learn first hand that a diet consisting of only Pepsi and Fritos isn't good.
Yes and they should repay that debt as they owe people represented by the NAACP some friggin' jobs, jobs, jobs. They owe the NAACP and the people represented by the NAACP equal spots in the National Committee, the local committees and everywhere the f*ck else. On second thought I would not consider it a debt to be "repaid" it should be a goddamned investment. If the Democratic Party is going to be the party of everyone (save, perhaps, for the racists and Big Business), they had better act like it. They should embrace this type of activism and honor it, not with words and patronizing crap, but with actual work and actions.
My "heritage"?!? Sure, I am 1/4 Irish and lived/studied for a while in Dublin, but the Kennedys are not my heritage. What an inane thing to say. If you mean the "liberal Democratic" heritage, I would say the same thing about Edward "Ted" Kennedy I said about Al Franken-I respect your politics, but if your personal life is that tainted, you have to go. By the way, all of the drunkenness and alleged sexual exploits of Ted Kennedy should have had him run out of office. If Ted Kennedy was criminally responsible for her death, he should have paid the price for it. The fact is, he did plead to the crime of leaving the scene of a crime that involved a death. He received a two month suspended prison sentence. -Should he have reported it sooner? Absolutely! -Why didn't he? My guess, having read some of the reports, would be a combination of shock and because he was probably drunk and did not want a DWI charge would would, likely, result in far more serious criminal charges. -Should it have been more harsh? Perhaps. That being said, he was investigated, charged and pleaded guilty. Donald Trump and Roy Moore simply deny, deny, deny.
That part of you should be shut down as soon as possible. Roy Moore elected would've been a disastrous symbol of depravity and cravenness on the part of the electorate.
That part of you should be shut down as soon as possible. Roy Moore elected would've been a disastrous symbol of depravity and cravenness on the part of the electorate.
Hasn't this instinct for moral purity been beaten out of you yet? So outraged he said it twice! By the way, you're deluding yourself if you don't think the fact that Roy Moore very nearly got himself elected to the Senate is not in itself "a disastrous symbol of depravity and cravenness on the part of the electorate." The fact that he lost excuses nothing. Ezra Klein is closer to the truth on that point: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...524/doug-jones-alabama-roy-moore-donald-trump Roy Moore was abomination, and yet everything had to go just right to keep him out of the Senate. Take no solace in the fact that we got lucky this time. And, yes, had fortune gone against Jones, the resulting political ads in 2018 would have been glorious!
Thanks, that article pretty much sums up my feelings. I have no doubt whatsoever that David Duke would have won that election in a walk with the Republican nomination.
That is a horrifying, horrifying statement...and almost certainly true. Thanks for scaring the crap out of me.