Robbie Rogers at Stevenage [R]

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  1. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I don't even mean that the locals were unfriendly but that there was no outlet for him to do his own thing, unlike in a large college dominated town like Columbus. Maybe a larger city like Amsterdam, Hague or Rotterdam would have been acceptable for him. A more isolated province where every club member is seen and heard a la Green Bay was probably a poor fit.
     
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  2. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, remember that Heerenveen's stadium has a larger capacity than the town's population (at least it did back then).
     
  3. jfalstaff

    jfalstaff Member

    May 3, 2012
    if he wants to come back to the game there will be plenty of teams in England he can play for. Judging from his #rightlessintheMLS tweet I seriously doubt he'd consider coming back to MLS.

    Maybe now that he has this off his chest he will be a better player mentally.
     
  4. DearGodNotBornstein

    Aug 16, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he would have to re-apply for a work permit though unless he manages to qualify as a resident there or something. I have absolutely no idea what the rules are for that though.
     
  5. jfalstaff

    jfalstaff Member

    May 3, 2012
    He's living and working in London for Men's Health Magazine UK.
     
  6. Jgco

    Jgco Member

    Jul 14, 2011
    I heard a whisper a few days ago that he had started a course at London College of Fashion.
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One advantage of being part of the leadership of a company... they can sponsor you to work almost anywhere. He might just be the Halsey country rep in the UK now. That may or may not let him make money in other ways (I have a hard enough time with US immigration rules, citizenship requirements & FIFA nationality rules).
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just heard that Leeds fans at the Man City game on Saturday were chanting:
    "One Robbie Rogers, there's only one Robbie Rogers" (repeat)
    and
    "He shags who he wants, he shags who he wantssssssssss, he's Robbie Rogers, he shags who he wants"
    :D

    Both chants are common in England but Leeds fans used the last one on former manager Simon Grayson after rumors came out he was cheating on his wife with a club employee. I thought it was clever and definitely a sign of respect from the fans.
     
  10. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's clever as hell. Well done, Leeds fans.
     
  11. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    First interview since retiring will be out tomorrow in the Guardian online.
     
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  12. nealesk

    nealesk Member

    Dec 18, 2009
    Santa Fe, NM
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know if he just doesn't want to play anymore of if his stepping away is due to coming out but I'm sure if he wants to play he'll be accepted here in US
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Based on his tweets, it seems like he's done with his internship at Men's Health UK and might be heading back to the States soon.

    Whether he's just coming back for a visit or coming back to do something outside of soccer or coming back for another reason, I do not know.

    But I know he'd be welcomed back to MLS and hope he plays again.
     
  14. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago could really use a spark. Perhaps he could provide it. Granted I don't know what kind of shape he is in but still.
     
  15. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    He's gay. I'm sure he's in fabulous shape!

     
  16. Jgco

    Jgco Member

    Jul 14, 2011
    Personal opinion:

    Sad that he has felt the need to walk away from football out of fear of the reaction he would get and a desire to not be seen as a martyr. I'd like to think we as a society have advanced to the stage where someone's sexuality is no longer an issue and myths about homosexuality have long since been dispelled, and I actually suspect the reaction would be a lot warmer than he believes, however from the comments on the Guardian interview, its clear some Neanderthals still remain.
     
  17. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A player is one part of the equation. The manager also has to realize he's also in a historic position that is bigger than the immediate set of upcoming games, set the tone and say, "if I hear anything disparaging from a player on this side, he's sitting the next match. If he repeats the offense, we'll look to move him on to another club" - and then apply those standards regardless of whether it's your third string keeper or your fan-favorite star striker.

    It takes 0-tolerance discipline to make this kind of change and it has to realize it is more important than the competition on the field.
     
  18. atomicskiracer

    Jun 1, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article does leave the door open for him to return, and he even goes on to state that we may look to train with LA....Hopefully he comes back!
     
  19. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids & Celtic FC
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a candid, open, and honest interview. You could almost feel Robbie's pain and his struggles. But as the interview progressed a sense of relief and new found happiness just flowed thru his words. A new world has opened up for Robbie and given that platform, I have no doubt he will be successful in every aspect of his life ---- personally and professionally. It doesn't sound like he has closed the door on football. If he chooses to return, there will be many welcoming arms. I just hope he realizes that.
     
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  20. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only thing I wonder about is this common thought that "he could come back to MLS and play" I mean that seems to be the common refrain from journalist on twitter, etc. I am not saying a several teams wouldn't be interested but his club play has gone down hill since 08/09 season. Most Crew fans were not sad to see him leave because his play didn't warrant his PT or salary. Now I realize the possibility that he may play more free and regain some sort of form with this now out in the open. On the flip side there will be much more for him to deal with in terms of media, fans, and general scrutiny.

    I guess I am saying I am not 100% sure he would be an MLS starter. Also, let's not forget he hasn't played more than 30 minutes in a game since September. I know he was hurt for some of that. However, depending on how long he takes off now and the time it will take to get back into some form of playing shape. Just count me as someone not sold on the notion.
     
  21. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe in soccer, we've reached that point. American sports, such as football, though? Hell no. Trust me, I've sat in locker rooms all through HS and semi-pro. This horrible perspective extends into society as well.

    It's a damn shame, too.

    I had to chew my boss out (with fear of being fired) for using homosexual slur terms. I'm in a corporate environment. I'm also in my homestate of MS too, but naja...

    The point is, at least here in the United States, we've got a long way to go before we shatter this nasty, nasty, preponderance of genuinely loathing someone because of their sexual orientation. His fears are not irrational.

    Damn shame.
     
  22. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004

    Actually, Robbie himself said it better in the NYT interview:


     
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  23. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. Hadn't read those interviews beforehand. Robbie vociferates the BS very well.
     
  24. R1PP

    R1PP Member

    Dec 3, 2007
    Swarthmore, PA
    Well gay acceptance continues to grow as people are touched personally by knowing a gay friend or family member especially among young americans. Pro Sports might be a little slower to being fully accepting, but considering there are new rookies joining the league every year the turn over of older un-accepting players with younger more accepting players could happen pretty quickly.
     

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