Riding the Ceballos Train to Cibeles - The Dani Ceballos Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by madridista_hr, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Casemiro unlike Kroos and Modric will shoot from distance which forces the defense to come out and press, it would make a big difference if our midfield would show more ambition at times rather than always passing out wide so one of our fullback can cross a ball into Ronaldo. Dani also can play some nice through balls which would work very well with a younger, more technically gifted options. We really do have almost every thing we'd need to give anybody headaches, we just need the courage to cut bait on BBC.
     
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  2. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    Pfft what a game he played yesterday and that without any serious minutes with us. Biggest talent Spain has in that age category after Asensio. That assist with outside of his foot on Oyarzabal was genius.

    should play A LOT more, A LOT.
     
  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    For Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Kovacic or Isco/Asensio?
    He's in a team with so many options, it's logical that he doesn't get that much of a look. Kovacic would start for practically every team other than Barcelona and Madrid right now in Spain, and for most top teams in Europe.

    He should go out for a year on loan(not at Betis for me, but that's irrelevant), and then we'll see.
     
  4. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    No, I said he should play a lot more. Doesnt have to be here, but he needs to make more minutes asap. Its a waste if he is rotting on the bench. What am I saying, he doesnt even sit on the bench these days lol.

    Liga is over anyway, give the kid more minutes.
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The League is never over when the future of the coach is questioned after every game. Didn't he play both Cup games that ended up getting us knocked out of the tournament? Again, not saying he isn't a good player, just that people won't accept bad results no matter what is being played for.
     
  6. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    didnt Asensio and Lucas play both cup games that ended up getting us knocked out? I'm not saying they aren't good players...

    Like get real dude. Ceballos is a massive talent open your eyes and actually watch consecutive games, before you started judging players after two games
     
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  7. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    212 minutes in La Liga.
     
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  8. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    7th midfielder.
     
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  9. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    I admire his tenacity. But he should agree to be loaned. He needs minutes to develop. 212 minutes in 8 months is nothing.
     
  10. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    I can’t think of anyone in the midfield he should be starting before right now, too far down the pecking order and everyone ahead of him is performing at the moment, talented but he should have taken the loan
     
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  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    You brought up a match in which Borja Mayoral scored a hat trick in. Ceballos will be fine, but at this moment, he's not really an option with so many midfielders in sharp form. His chance would be if other players wouldn't show up, but even Kovacic is looking fantastic right now.
     
  12. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    Yes Borja scored 3 goals so? Ceballos showed glimspes of genius doesn't matter against who he plays. Totally irrelevant if Borja scored 2 or 7. You brought up two games where everyone was terrible, even players who are shining now. Good reasoning. He hasn't given the chance with the the a team modric Marcelo Kroos etc around him. You can give him at least 20 minutes a game or so in liga than loan him out the best for him ATM. Get him back when modric really is going to retire.
     
  13. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Getting more minutes and being a starter is not the same thing.
     
  14. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Dani gets more minutes at the expense of Llorente or whoever else, and the witch-hunt is in that player's thread.
     
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  15. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    See above
     
  16. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    It's the vicious cycle I was referring to when discussing the new fade/witch-hunt; Isco wants out!
     
  17. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    This not between Ceballos and Llorente. Lucas, Asensio and 32 year old Modric have played among them almost 5000 minutes. If only 10 percent of that amount from all of them combined was given to Ceballos it wouldn't have affected any one of them one bit and would have done wonders for Ceballos. And its just randomly picked players based on being most suitable, you can even include Benzema and Bale there, since the formations have been changing this season.

    There is no witch hunt just as there is no unquestioned support for every single decision Zidane makes.
     
  18. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Stupid argument because even if 10% more had originally been given the complaints would change to another 10% should have been.

    You guys are miserable.
     
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  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Then again when Morata was playing a 1500 minute League season under zizou putting up record numbers people said he's "rotting on the bench".
     
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  20. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Sure it would have because people are already bitching about how little Asensio plays. Not to mention that Asensio and Lucas play a completely different role and changing the formation to accommodate a fringe player is beyond idiotic given the pressure there is to win. The reality that you either don't want to accept or can't comprehend is that he's the 7th midfielder and he was told this is exactly what will happen if he stays at the club this season instead of going out on loan.
     
  21. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    #171 Hendrix22, Mar 24, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2018
    Thats because Benzema was ass. In Ceballos case 200 minutes is bad even for a 7 midfielder.

    The formation was changed to accomodate Lucas and Asensio. Zidane keeps changing formations all the time. Even more so during matches depending on the need. There were so many times when Ceballos could have featured, but he wasnt even on the bench.

    In the end, if Asensio took James' last season minutes, then Ceballos should have taken last season Asensio minutes.
     
  22. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
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    The Hendrix World where Balotelli is picking up his 7th consecutive Ballon d'Or win and stats are forbidden by the law. Pre-assists , breathing as much air as possible and curled 30 meter 360 no scope long balls are the only allowed stats.
     
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  23. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    The formation was changed to give us a better chance to win by putting in better players. The formation wasn't changed to accommodate fringe squad players.
     
  24. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    The formation change was an experiment that succeeded for the time being. Lucas Vazques and Asensio are not better players, they have simply performed well when they were given the chance. Ceballos, hasn't. He hasn't even been a substitute for the majority of the time.
     
  25. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    They are better players. They are far more established, and they are far more polished. Both paid their dues. This is not even a point of discussion.

    He hasn't been a substitute because he is the 7th midfielder, and that means there is a long list of players ahead of him in the pecking order.
     
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