Rhapsody in Blue: Christian Pulisic at Chelsea

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  1. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 11, 2006
    I'm on this blue bandwagon just for CP. Chelsea along with Real Madrid and BayernMunich is the most unlikable team in modern football.

    But I loved them when Zola used to run the midfield.
     
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  2. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. harttbeat

    harttbeat Member

    Dec 29, 1998
    New York
    hahah, the article say USA are the favorites to win Gold Cup. No worries, he will be back very soon.
     
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  4. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member

    Aug 17, 2015

    I don’t really consider finishing 6th in the Championship as doing well.
     
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  5. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Agreed. I don 't anticipate us making the semi. Next round is probably where we exit.
     
  6. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    So you post this to let them know that they are on ignore? Doesn’t that contradict the ignore concept?
     
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  7. munichfan9

    munichfan9 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 7, 2005
    Burke, Virginia
    You have the usa losing to el salvador or honduras?
     
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  8. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    @ them bruh.
     
  9. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    We lost to TNT. Nothing surprises me anymore, especially under the current regime.
     
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  10. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    That's the clever part - the morons are too moronic to realize they're morons, and assume he's talking about someone else.
     
  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yes I do!



    hey, wait second...
     
  12. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I have a hard time considering that LD has lived to the expectations for him with the NT.

    I thought he was talking about struggling and not just being benched. LD failed two more times in Germany. I thought he was talking about the stint in 2005, but should also consider the one in 2009. The Bayern one was at least respectable, but he was embarrassed in the 2005 CL.

    Figuring out LD is always challenging. He bounced back from both of these experiences with decent years. What is interesting is that he faded in 2006 and held on an extra year and similarly wasnt himself in 2011 (perhaps due to the successful loan to Everton in 2010).

    Luckily, LD is wired differently. I think he will be fine at Chelsea and with the usmnt.
     
  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our fellow is on this chart:

     
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  14. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ribery, wow. You have to figure that's going down if he played more often. Maybe true of CP and Dembele, too. Either way, still exceptional company.
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    "10-yeard Ball Advancement per 90' " seems a weird statistic for soccer. What is the point of it? You can advance the ball to the corner flag and get trapped there. You can advance the ball only to turn it over with all your midfield in the wrong position.

    It seems a rather forced stat.
     
  16. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    It's not what is being measured that matters, it's how one compares to others. As a soccer player I'd be happy to be in pretty much any statistical group imaginable that has me in that company.
     
  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Compare secondary assists, percent of successful dribbles, crucial passes, free kicks earned.

    This is not gridiron, advancing X feet on the field is meaningless.
     
  18. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're a smart guy, Suyuntuy, and know full well it is not meaningless; it is closely related to moving the ball into goal scoring positions, which is obviously important.
     
  19. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's very clearly not meaningless... it's about ball advancement versus not losing the ball. There are some good dribblers on Liverpool but they are nowhere near the top right corner of that graph. There's a reason for that, and it's meaningful.

    But yeah, combine this with more stats to get a better overall picture, and watch out for small sample sizes. Both things can be true.
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Many many team score without advancing the ball.

    The guy who does has the initials OG.
     
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  21. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Omar Gonzalez?
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    If it is so meaningless, why is the list dominated by some of the most valuable soccer players in the world? You don’t have to be Billy Bean to see there’s something to this stat.
     
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  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    You know what I mean. You can advance the ball to make something constructive, ergo measure that which is constructive. Or you can advance the ball only to find yourself cornered and lose it.

    Omar Gonzalez = OG. Good lord, it was there all the time!
     
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  24. mace

    mace Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it all depends on how the ball is advanced. Not sure if they applied that ball advance stat just in the opposing half of the field or what. But, it is interesting who bubbled up to the top.
    And of course any stat alone isn’t worth much. One needs to combine stats to make a complete picture of a player or team. But, that doesn’t make a single stat such as ball advancement ‘meaningless’ per se, even if it doesn’t provide the whole picture of a player.
     
  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    While Lampard is on vacation, Benitez just became a free man.

    What's the odds on Benitez taking over Chelski?
     

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