There are three "very successful" players on that Dortmund U-23 roster in total, if one counts Sven Bender and Marcel Schmelzer and one 'fairly successive" (at this point) in Daniel Ginczek (18 goals for St. Pauli in League 2, was playing well for Nürnberg last season until suffering an injury, now off to Stuttgart). That's three "major leaguers" out of 31 U-23 prospects (Sven B. was 20, Schmelzer was 21 and Ginczek 18) during that season. HOWEVER! Bender was an 1860 product, having already played 65 BL II matches for them (25 in 2008-09, 3.8 Kicker grade at 19) before moving to Dortmund. In 09-10, he was actually more of a senior Dortmund squad member (19 matches only but with a 3.0 average). Schmelzer, being a year older, played a whopping 28 matches in the Bundesliga (3.4 average) at 21, meaning that both players were eligible for the reserves team but were already playing "age higher". So, of the real rank&file Dortmund II members, there's basically only Ginczek who's a legitimate "major leaguer" and even he is coming off a major injury. Now, Bayern II in BL III then had some familiar names in David Alaba at 17, Diego Contento at 19 and Mehmet Ekici at 19 (and Saer Sene at 23, who was actually very good there with 11 goals and a 3.22 grade) http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/3liga/vereine/3-liga/2009-10/bayern-muenchen-ii-88/kader.html That's right. Because out of a dozen of guys like Pulisic and Wright, you might get 2-3 legitimate top league performers. BTW, Najar wasn't very/any good with Honduras at the WC but, at least, he is beginning to get regular PT with Anderlecht these days.