Revolution Stadium Groundbreaking "12-24 months" Part XVI

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  1. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please don't shoot the messenger.

    FWIW, I've heard the Revs have been poking around the Wellington Station area for years.

    Gateway Center is directly across the Orange Line from the new Encore Boston Harbor Casino.

    Coincedentally...

    Casino is phase one of 'the entertainment district of the Northeast'

    EVERETT — City leaders and Wynn Resorts executives said this weekend’s opening of the glittering $2.6 billion, 671-room Encore Boston Harbor casino resort is probably just the beginning of something even bigger: a massive hotel and entertainment complex on a once grim and heavily polluted stretch of the Mystic River.

    “Our idea,” said Matt Maddox, Wynn’s chief executive, at a news conference Friday, “is to continue to redevelop this area so that it’s known as the entertainment district in the Northeast.”

    Although he did not provide details on when the company might begin to expand, after Encore’s opening, Maddox said the company will learn what it’s missing.

    “Is it hotels? Is it arenas? What is it that needs to go here?”

    Maddox said Wynn Resorts has purchased 11 acres of land near the casino, giving the company space to realize broader ambitions.

    Wellington Station is within walking distance. Assembly Row is right across the river. In addition, I've heard rumblings that the Celtics are less than pleased with their current arrangement with TD Garden, and might also be eyeing some sort arrangement with Encore Boston in this same area.

    Obviously, this is still in the rumor stage, but it might actually have legs in terms of being something that's possibly workable.
     
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  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm, interesting idea, and if it is part of a larger massive-scale development project I can see it possibly happening. But if the Celtics are looking at building their own arena, I can see that happening instead of a soccer stadium. More possibility for non-sports use than an open-air grass stadium. And it would also require maybe half as much land.
     
  3. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    A basketball arena and soccer stadium would use common parking - or, to get more crazy, a Revs stadium with a retractable roof. Target capacity would be similar for both teams, schedules don't have too much overlap, if the bull gang can put a hoops floor over ice, they could probably do it over a grass pitch.

    But, it's pretty crazy - while the Celtics might not like their arrangement - the Bruins' owners basically have all the leverage - I can't see them leaving the CityOfBoston.

    I was over in that area not too long ago - at an outing at the trampoline place in the map - there is some space in the area, which is primarily occupied by warehouse type places that could probably relocate fairly easily. On the one side, there's the main drag up Everett, which would be totally overwhelmed by any increase in traffic, but the proximity to the Orange line is promising. It took me 10 minutes to ride my bike to/from Wellington, which would probably be cut in half with a new bike/pedestrian bridge and a more direct route.
     
  4. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could try something like this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saitama_Super_Arena
     
  5. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't see a Basketball and Soccer setup in the same place. I suppose you could lay the basketball court so that the sideline seats would be behind the soccer goal, and then add a large, temporary stand on the other side. Each basket would be at the sidelines of the soccer field.

    But if the whole place hods 20-25,000 for soccer, you'd be hard pressed to get 15,000 in for basketball and have the seats be any good. I've seen pictures taken from other domes for basketball and if you're in the top level, you'd be better off watching on TV.

    Before they built ScotiaBank arena (or whatever it is called now) in Ottawa, they had a smaller hockey arena (~8000) attached to the CFL stadium, but they were more back-to-back. The lug-jury suites for hockey also abutted the CFL field on the other side, but the playing areas were totally separate.
     
  6. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about a setup like they've got at BC where Conte Forum and Alumni Stadium are attached to each other and share some common spaces?
     
  7. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Celtics have been sharing a building with the Bruins for, what, 60-70 years? And it has always been a thorn in their side. They won't leave that just to share with someone else.
     
  8. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    The Celtics position has been worse than just 'sharing', they've been a tenant, sharing occupancy with the owner.

    IF this every happened, it would probably be a co-ownership, or individual ownership of the major buildings with co-ownership of some common components (dual-facing suites, parking, maybe related-development, etc.).
     
  9. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Basketball to soccer/football stadium conversions won't be great for basketball watching, but from an urban land use perspective, might be the best possible outcome.

    Here is Syracuse's Dome arena layout for basketball - it can hold 35,000 for basketball but I've heard the views etc aren't great. It can also hold 50,000 for football.

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  10. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was pretty much the layout I was talking about. In this case, we wouldn't have the yellow top deck but maybe 2 smaller tiers with a row of luxury suites in between. The BB seats wouldn't be too bad in that setup,

    Still, the grass field would take a beating, unless they did something like Schalke where they have the field on wheels and rolling it out when not in use. But that would be hugely expensive and they probably wouldn't have enough land for that anyway.
     

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