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Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by kromekote, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  2. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So it's official that Jordi Cruyff will coach Ecuador.
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yup, that came out of nowhere.
    Kudos to their federation for thinking outside of the box but it is a strange fit.

    People thought we had it bad signing an unproven Euro guy "so late in the process"...
    ...This guy is less accomplished than Queiroz, and just has a couple of months to learn his player pool and implement his philosophy. Technically 3 days with Euro/foreign based players before qualifiers.

    Which, oh by the way are against Argentina and Uruguay in March.

    Good luck with that.:ROFLMAO:
     
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  4. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    hmm, is this regarding Pekerman as a GM for Argentina? I didn't know it was still a thing
     
  5. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Caught a bit of the Uruguay-Chile match. For Chile, I'm recognizing dudes like Vidal, Medel, Aranguiz...some of these guys were playing since the 2010 qualifiers.

    On the other hand, I don't think there's a single Uruguayan who played as recently as the 2018 qualifiers. The average age of the starting lineup was 25! They've always done a great job of constantly replacing retirees with younger players, but this is an INSANE generation shift.

    Chile's average age was 27.5--an average pushed way up by Medel and Aranguiz.

    You know what ours was yesterday? 29.5. That average has only been superseded by Venezuela and Peru.

    We complain about James, Cuadrao, and--especially--Falcao all the time. But the truth is the WHOLE base has gotten VERY old. Even Barrios, Mina, and Lerma are a month away from being 29-30.
     
  6. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    worrisome. we need Puerta to play and give Rios minutes. we do have some promising center-backs in the MLS as well. def need younger strikers as well lmao but like you said to CRZD, who else is there at the moment?
     
  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We also have a lot of youth. Cuadrado at 35 and Vargas at 34 is def impacting the avg.

    In terms of the squad:

    - Vargas is 34, but Vasquez and Mier could play and are younger. Vargas also seems like kind of keeper that is a late bloomer and could tend for ages.

    - Lucumi is 25, Cuesta 24, Mina 29 in two weeks, Munoz 27, Machado 30. But Machado is a late bloomer too and while we only just found him, we should succession plan.

    - Barrios is 30 next month, Lerma 29 next month, but I think the recambio will be ready with Rios 23, Puerta 20, Solis 18, Castaño 22 at that position. Alzate 25 and Atuesta 26, could get considered but seems younger guys may be ready sooner.

    - at 10 - Carrascal 25 and Yaser 19 seem ready to take torch from James and Quintero.

    - On the wings Arias 25, Diaz 26, and Sini 24 are all prime age.

    - Upfront Duran is the future at 19, Cassierra is prime age at 26 (and fulfilling the promise that sent him to Ajax as a kid kinda later than expected) and Borré is gonna be 28.

    All this to say, if we just make Sugar happy and keep C4 off the pitch our avg will be plenty young! :)
     
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  8. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Results aren't surprisingly given that the top 4 right now won their matches as expected. Although us and Argentina scoring only one at home each could be a bad sign for the next round.

    Bolivia and Chile surprisingly managed to get a single goal back despite the utter dominance, making me think of how we would score plenty of goals but get top comfortable and just get scored on for no good reason. Discipline is key.
     
  9. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ehh we’ll be fine.
     
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  10. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Argentina getting a 0-3 win in Bolivia is the perfect result; that red card secured their victory after their first goal. Hopefully we can get as fortunate.

    And Ecuador looks to secure a win against Uruguay after being down a goal which would put them at 0 points.

    Venezuela and Paraguay...nothing worth mentioning.
     
  11. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    that Ecuador game seemed epic, they were down 1-0 to Uruguay and came from behind. Idk how it ended because i didn't have time to watch
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Looks like Mexico officially called up Quiñones for the Copa America playoffs against Honduras.
    Sucks, but he is Mexican now.

    He is not the only Colombian to be called up by another National team though.
    38 year old striker Jair Reinoso has been called up by Bolivia. I think that is a good fit for him and the team even though his best days are probably behind him. He could still give Martins Moreno a decent attacking partner. That guys always seemed to be attacking up front by himself isolated,so Reinoso can be a good supporting striker if that is how their new manager wants to play.
     
  13. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We knew about Quiñones for a good while and did nothing with him. I don't blame him to want to represent a culture that appericiates him and intends to call him up regularly. No hard feelings as I do think this happens in football often enough.
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yup. He has a wife and family now in Mexico so I do not blame him at all.
    Just sucks we did not give him a chance earlier.
     
  15. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    meh... he's played 7 years in Mexico. Way too much of a comfort zone to play in Mexico that long. Not the highest test for a NT prospect.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I personally look at how a player plays (style) and if his skillset can help us at the moment. That is more important to me than where he is playing.
     
  17. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Well that's rarely been the case since Pekerman. Hence why FPC, Mexico and MLS players were overlooked. I would even toss in Morelos in the SFL at this prime was tossed aside.

    Previously, in the Maturana era, since we didnt have too many players abroad, we had to play FPC players. But even when we started to have more presence in Mexico (early 2000s) and had standout players killing it in that league, guys like Luis Gabriel Rey, Chitiva, Frankie Oviedo were not called up easily. We would use our Argie league players and go anywhere but Mexico.

    Fast forward to today, we're kind of in the same boat. We're not playing the kind of futbol that plays for a killer #9. We haven't been for years. So we can put whoever we want, with whatever skillset you choose, no one is going to be the magic bullet. Cordoba + Casierra who have been on fire, are not seeing serious minutes on the NT. That's a darn shame. We have options
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    his 1st 3 years he was trying to stab people wasn't he?
     
  19. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    That was him? dang....
     
  20. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    was it? I thought it was a different one.
     
  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    his cousin or older brother got blamed but he was linked to some questionable shit.
     
  22. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    we got too many Quinones, idk whos who

    also they all suck
     
  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    No one is saying anything about a magic bullet.
    Just wanted him to be given a chance and he was never called up at all.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Due to the crazy fans rioting debacle against Argentina and how it was handled by security and police in the Maracana there's talk that Brasil may be in serious trouble.

    Some are saying they may be forced to play at neutral fields or empty stadiums. Some are reporting that they may get deducted 3 points from the table.

    Not sure Brasil has ever had an embarrassing crises like this since winning their first World Cup.
     
  25. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I haven't seen them in a situation like this either
     

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