Re: AC Milan official transfer, rumor, and speculation thread 8

this is somewhat true, but i think it would be allowed to be rotated every once in a while anyway since we would have ambrosini, beckham, pirlo, gattuso, flamini, and even seedorf for that spot. beckham-pirlo-gattuso in midfield would be pretty solid and balanced. i think beckham balances our midfield out because he works really hard and can also play the ball...even pirlo was working hard to defend against bologna! lol maybe beckham has inspired pirlo.

 

Key here must be the age of these players.

Seedorf 33 this year
Pirlo 30
Beckham 34
Ambrosini 32
Emerson 33
Gattuso 31
Flamini 25
Gourcuff 23

Surely only two of these guys have a real future with Milan. Why not start playing Flamini and Gourcuff and stop this Beckham crap.

 

I hear they want 35 year old Panucci now also....

 

The worst part of this equation is not just the older players, but the huge salaries. How on Earth have not cut Emerson is beyond me? I also wouldn't be surprised to see Seedorf gone by next year. I don't care for his grumbling.

 

we have been asking that question for years.

 

well, i have a feeling emerson is gone, if not in the winter, in the summer, he was frozen out again for the genoa match. I like emerson, but it looks like a break-up is coming

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=4218

cardacio might go on loan to serie b for pisa...would be a good move imho

 

i agree... on the cardacio part.

never liked emerson. hopefully he is gone in the winter itself...

and where the hell is flamini. I want to know if he isnt playing coz of ancelotti or is it because he is slowly regaining form and fitness after his injury.

 

Ancelotti is at fault imo. He needs balls to stand up to galliani and berlusconi sometimes. How does Beckham become an automatic starter considering how poorly he played in the MLS and he only practice a few times.

 

How poorly he played in the MLS?

K, I get how educated you could be regarding Serie A. But, if you don't watch MLS don't comment on it. Don't just read the articles about him.

Because of beckham, L.A was the top scoring offense in the league last year. if he didnt score it or assist it he was the opening pass to the score or the assist. You can't blame an attacking midfielder for how poorly his defense plays.

Sheesh, Ignorance is bliss.

how little he practice? Kaka and Ronaldinho both couldn't help but to notice how hard he was working in practice. He was at practice working 3 hours early before anyone else got there. Dude, get your facts straight

 

well, he hasnt played too bad, and has steadily improved. Dont get me wrong, I dont think Beckham should start over flamini, but they have different characteristics and if ancelotti wants a player of beckham's characterisitcs, then he will play him and not flamini and I can make peace with that.

If i were to play beckham, I would still start flamini over ambrosini. Ambro has done a lot for this team and I respect that, but flamini is the future and we need to start playing him before we alienate another fantastic midfielder.

A midfield comprising of flamini gourcuff pirlo with abate on the bench is truly mouthwatering and we can have that for little to no cost and all we have to do is show a little faith.

 

whether he played poorly or not at the galaxy is moot, all i care about personally is how he will perform for milan, and so far can there be any doubt that cardacio would have produced more than beckham is doing right now? there is a gulf in quality between those two players and there is no shame in loaning out cardacio. if he has the quality, he will show it in serie b, and then if he plays well and doesn't get a chance then ancelotti can be "blamed." right now, beckham gives the team a much better chance to win and hence deserves to play.


as far as ancelotti not having any balls...he benched dinho. ancelotti is stubborn and plays favorites and has other flaws, but i don't get where people act as if he is some puppet. he benched pato last year, he has kept sheva, berlu's "son" riding the pine and has benched dinho...also last year berlusconi would call publicly for two strikers and ancelotti would ignore him (whether that was the right decision or not is a different debate, but the point is if he had no balls he would have catered to the pressure exerted from the board).

ancelotti is not too theatrical and keeps his disagreements behind closed doors, but i think it's hard to argue he is not his own man, if anything his quiet resoluteness (maybe downright obstinance) is one of my main issues with him

 

Ancelotti doesn't have the balls to try something new. He hit pay-dirt with the Pirlo experiment and has been trying to ride it for the past 6 years. He won't drop Clarence Seedorf to save his life. He still thinks Ambrosini is Milan material. Times change, you can't be TOO sentimental in this game.

 

what does that have to do with beckham though? or balls (balls in this sense being doing berlusconi's bidding)?

 

Oh. I dunno. I wasn't talking about that, I was just using it as an opportunity to point out Ancelotti is tactically limited.

 

yeah, he has his flaws as i admitted on my previous post and plays favorites and at times drives me bonkers, just that sometimes i feel people go overboard and blame every little ill on him

 

must agree with that. seedorf pretty much epitomizes that point.

And ambro needs to be benched in favor of flamini. Whats funny is that flamini is a ancelotti signing, and yet he is lettin him rot.

 

to be fair, though, ambrosini had a good match and does give us our only aerial presence in midfield, but yeah i agree that flamini should get more of a chance, but i think he will. flamini's injury woes also hurt his rhythm, he fell out of the line-up especially given gattuso's excellent form at the same time and then has struggled to get back in, even with gattuso going down

 

I like Beckham's contribution so far and I think it could be positive if he stayed. My only beef would be that Gourcuff seems more unlikely to come back by the day.

 

very well said!

 

looks like darmian and cardacio may be off on loan to pisa...they are struggling right now, but i guess this could be a good move. i just hope they both get playing time.

 

This isn't America where employees have no rights. You can't cut someone just because you think they don't deserve what you pay them.

 

wtf are you talking about? People in America make $70/hr to TURN A WRENCH, with FULL health care benfits, post retirement salary, 401k, etc... If those aren't rights, then you're ********ing crazy.


Workers in America have TOO MANY rights, that's partly why our economy is in the shitter. ********ing SOME unions.

 

very true

 

you know little of what you speak of

 

Then why can't you prove anything I say wrong? Unions and workers rights have ruined this country.