Rangers - The End game

Discussion in 'Scotland' started by Pedro's greasy do, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  2. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  3. SOUTHEND_TFCRED

    Jan 16, 2015
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    nice to see the huns getting along so well....lol
     
  4. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  5. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I actually have no words.

     
  6. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  7. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    It's all gone a bit quiet apart from the board saying they will not use ibrox against the loan. Saying and doing is two different things though.
     
  8. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Bit off topic...but not really, I guess.

    I'm going to be in Glasgow for three days in late March and am planning to do the stadium tour at Ibrox, which I'm very excited about. Anything Rangers related that I shouldn't miss or just Glasgow related? Staying in the West End.

    Cheers,
    HoMeat (AFC forum)
     
  9. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  10. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Kelvingrove Art Gallery is worth a look and has a section on the old firm.
    Glasgow bus tour is actually really good.
    Glasgow University and in general the west end is a nice area for a walk.
    Around Finnieston is the up and coming area for bars and restaurants.
    Also this is in the east end of Glasgow but don't let that put you off! :D http://drygate.com/ I guess you could say it's quite American. Craft beer bar with loads on tap.
     
  11. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  12. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    It is very concerning. But technically he's not breaking any rules. You can bet the repayment plan is heavily weighted in his favour.

    It comes down to who wants the club the most now. Ashley and Co V King and Co. Of course it will come down to money.

    In the meantime the fans needs need to keep working on getting http://www.rangersfirst.org/ and the union of fans as much power as possible. That is the way forward for us.
     
  13. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Oh fantastic! Thank you muchly! I will be sure to check a few of those out. Also going to spend some time at Hampden Park. Was thinking of a morning trip to Alexandria, Balloch, and Loch Lomond one of the days. Get a little nature in me.
     
  14. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    If you do that then it will take about an hour (approx) there and back from Loch Lomond. Always nice to visit Luss on a nice day.

    Alternatively head up the east side of the loch to Balmaha for a less tourist(y) look at the loch. More nature orientated. Mind you, it will take a little longer on your journey time.
     
  15. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Looks gorgeous up there! Time constraint might mean I'm limited to Balloch though. Want to grab a pint in the roundabout pub in Alexandria as well? (I'm from Alexandria, VA, so that's an added fun bit)
     
  16. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Written by Paul Brennan (from CQN). Worth a read even though he is a Celtic supporter. He knows his stuff.



    This morning’s stock market announcement that Rangers International received a £5m emergency loan from our pal Mike Ashley, with terms agreed (pending diligence) on a further £5m available if needed, will see the club through the next week.

    £3m of that £5m will go straight back to Ashley, to repay the loans he issued the club last year, leaving £2m, which will cover this week’s wages, with little left over (last year’s average monthly expenses was £2.75m).

    The club can sell players this week, but as that is unlikely to generate significant funds, it looks like additional funding will be needed before next month’s wages – and significantly – before the proposed EGM.

    In return for what is little more than an additional three week’s money, Ashley gets a floating charge over ALL the club’s assets. Despite how many headlines portray this story, that includes Ibrox Stadium.

    Issuing a floating charge over assets is a normal piece of business for a football club, but this is not a normal football club. Floating charges are usually issued to banks, not predatory retailers, and they are seldom issued when the club is weeks away from running out of money.

    A fixed charge has been granted over Murray Park, Edmiston House, Albion Car Park and, crucially, the club’s trademarks. In the event of a default, all these assets become the property of Sports Direct.

    For reasons which are hard to fathom, Ibrox became some totem not to be tampered with, allowing Ashley to grab hold of enormous assets with relatively little concern. Should they default, consider this:

    You want to sell tickets with ‘your’ crest or badge, pay me. You want to sell programmes, own a web site, do a shirt deal with someone else in the future, display the crest on the stadium wall, pay me.

    The fact that Ibrox is subject to a floating, not fixed, charge, means that in theory the board could grant someone else a fixed charge over that asset, if they act before the floating charge becomes actionable. However, with Ashley now able to load the board with another two appointments, that possibility is not credible. If you have the floating charge, and you have the board, you don’t need a fixed charge.

    There are other kicks to the nether regions. The club has given Sports Direct another 26% of Rangers Retail, bringing their total holding to 76%, for the duration of the initial loan. This is not hugely significant, but it could be in lieu of fees and interest, which are not being charged.

    More interestingly for a club completing short-term funding requirements, they have agreed to pass their shirt sponsorship proceeds to Rangers Retail from 2017, until all these borrowings are repaid. With all the other rights Ashley is likely to assume in the coming months, this seems unnecessary. He has the board, has inserted the conditions he wants in these loans and has the fixed and floating charges required to do pretty much anything. Apart from rubbing people’s faces in the faeces, this additional ‘benefit’ appears superfluous.

    What’s the takeaway message in all of this?

    Despite the press briefings which were slavishly reported as news earlier this month, Ashley is not about to roll over, no matter how ample his frame. He doesn’t care about anything you care about. He cannot be bribed, blackmailed or coerced. He will react badly to people trying to manipulate him. Very badly.

    He has control of the boardroom and Rangers International will need him before he needs it, and before any EGM is held. This is his new baseline, the next round of ‘assistance’ will tighten his grip on the all-important income streams.

    It’s an impossible situation for the fans. Learn to live with the guy you’ve failed to box into a corner, while he exacts compensation for the trouble he’s been put to, or continue to resent him.
     
  17. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Interesting read! How can he be so definitive about certain points unless he has inside info about what is going on with the board?
     
  18. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    He is very well quoted and isn't known for being a rumour mongerer. He has very close ties to the ongoings at Celtic so it may be those same contacts are ITK to a certain extent over Ibrox way as well.
     
  19. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    If he knows how these things work then worth listening to. A friend in business told me exactly what is happening is the exact same thing that has been happening to Man U for years. All be it at a greater pace. It's just an asset strip and one of the oldest tricks in the book.

    I still have hope he does not have full control of the board. But he certainly has a grip on a lot and I am willing to bet the cost to get rid of him is going to be huge.
     
  20. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  21. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    McDowall doesn't have control over full team selection now...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31145792


    Not getting any better is it...?
     
  22. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
  23. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    The EGM being held in London is an odd move.
     
  24. guignol

    guignol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    charles rennie mackintosh museum, willow tea rooms... and just down sauchiehall st. from there is the celtic store.
     
  25. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Your only mistake...
     

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