This is your original post: In 1930 and 1950; they didn't miss the QF - they missed the whole fucking WC. Understand the difference? Saying they, "They missed the quarter finals" implies they made it to the round of 18 and had a chance to actually, "make it to the QF".
Not really, "miss" can imply a number of things. Since Germany were "missing" from the WC50 quarterfinal round, my statement stands as is beyond further qualitatively questioning.
I suppose you could make some sort of argument that Germany "missed" the 1930 World Cup QFs, since they voluntarily chose not to take part, but wasn't Germany banned from participating in WC-1950? I don't know how you can "miss" the QF of a tournament in which you're not even allowed to participate. It would be like saying the USMNT "missed" the 2015 Women's World Cup. They didn't miss it, they were never eligible for it.
It doesn't change the fact that 1950 was one of three times Germany didn't make the quarterfinals. Unless you want us to award them with a quarterfinal appearance that World Cup.
Germany missed the quarterfinal of WC50, regardless of the reasons why. They did not play at any stage of that tournament, including the quarterfinals.
Let's not forget that Germany also failed to reach the quarterfinals of the 1942 and 1946 World Cups as well.
What happened to "regardless of the reasons why"? Germany didn't have a choice in 1950 just as everyone had no choice in '42 and '46. It's not like India missing 1950.
There are no reasons for 1942 or 1946, just like there are no reasons for 1929 or 2015. The event happened, Germany was not there --> Germany missed it.
You can't miss something you are not a part of - that is what people are trying to get through to you and you seem to be stuck. Put it in D and move forward. It's like saying, I missed becoming the Valedictorian of Harvard in 1998, even though I didn't attend.
I was about to say I guess I "missed" running for U.S. President last year, even though I wasn't born here and thus not eligible to run.
Not according to one of the main definitions of the word. Once again, you attempt to bring in elaborate semantics to something that is clear as day. Germany was not at the WC50 quarterfinals, thus it can accurately be said they missed it.
If your interpretation were correct, a dead person would "fail to attend" or "miss" their own funeral.
Just to follow up Pipiolo, on the definition you supplied: No one expected Germany to participate in the 1950 World Cup. If they had showed up and tried to take the field, the reaction would have been: "what the hell are you doing?"
Soooo, can we all stop arguing about something so meaningless?....... at least on public forum? This is all I see: It is more than clear that both sides are stubborn and sticking to their original point of view, regardless of what the other side says.. No point in back-and-forth bickering across multiple pages of a great thread, diluting the generally great content. If you guys are still invested in the subject for whatever reason, maybe you can exchange info through PM and continue this veeeeerrry important discussion privately.
LOL It is not like we are derailing the thread. It is pretty hard to derail a thread that, aside from the current argument, has had only 29 posts in the last three years. Indeed, it could be said that this discussion has reinvigorated the thread by attracting new people.
After reaching (and losing) the first ever World Cup final in 1930, Argentina wouldn't reach the quarterfinals of another World Cup until 1966. '66 also marked the first time Argentina reached the quarterfinals of a World Cup held in Europe (the fifth time it was held in that continent).
Errr...no. There has never even been a World Cup, since at least one nation somewhere has not joined FIFA yet. Germany was banned, I know that. Guess what? they still missed the WC50 quarterfinals. Those are all accurate statements at face value. Unlike a pedantic and horrible language like German, English does not have words such as "missedbybanishmentfvck" or "missedbygroupexit". Germany "missed" WC50 (or any of its stages) does just fine by the language.
But they, like your statemnt, don't tell the whole story. And as noted, there are new people viewing this thread for the first time who may be new to the sport and want to learn more about the World Cup. Context and clarity is all some of us are asking for. "Germany did not reach the quarterfinals of the 1950 World Cup." So how far did Germany get in the 1950 World Cup? Better still, which eight countries did reach the quarterfinals of the 1950 World Cup?