Random Thoughts About Baseball...

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Dr. Wankler, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  2. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Big Unit and Pedro get my votes, hands down.

    Thome belongs. And I'd like to see Edgar Martinez in there, too.
     
  3. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Arbitrator's Ruling Banishes Yankees' Alex Rodriguez for a Season - N.Y. Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/s...kees-alex-rodriguez-for-a-season.html?hp&_r=0
    Times Q&A: How Arbitration Worked, and What Happens Next - N.Y. Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/sports/baseball/q-and-a-alex-rodriguezs-suspension-appeal.html
     
  4. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    You find anyone to take that bet, we should sell them a bridge instead...
     
  6. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Christie won't let them use it
     
  7. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Kershaw to Get $215 Million - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...dgers-agree-seven-year-deal-worth-215-million
    Clayton Kershaw at Baseball Reference:
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kershcl01.shtml
     
  8. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Good! Some people complain this will make games longer. Well, there are many factors for that nowadays -- starting with endless commercial breaks between innings, so blame TV and radio broadcasts first and foremost -- but the reduction in blown calls overcomes that in my book.

    Owners Approve Expanded Replay - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10305223/mlb-owners-ok-expanded-replay-2014

    In addition to home runs, expanded replay was unanimously approved by MLB owners for the following plays:
    • Ground-rule double
    • Fan interference
    • Stadium boundary calls
    • Force play*
    • Tag play
    • Fair/foul in outfield only
    • Trap play in outfield only
    • Batter hit by pitch
    • Timing play
    • Touching a base (requires appeal)
    • Passing runners
    • Record keeping

    *Except fielder's touching of second on double play
     
  9. tolbuck

    tolbuck Member

    Sheffield Wednesday
    Jun 24, 2001
    toledo, oh
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I predict replay won't make the games longer. Yes it will take time to review the play, but that time is already wasted by a manager arguing the call. One form of delay replaces another form of delay. In the end it is a wash.
     
  10. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    MLB Players Association Would Expel Alex Rodriguez, If It Could - Yahoo! Sports
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb-players-association-would-expel-a-rod-if-it-could-171857810.html
     
  11. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
  12. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Tanaka sweepstakes over. The Yankees pull it off!

    Yanks Reach Deal with Japanese Pitcher Tanaka - N.Y. Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/s...anese-pitcher-masahiro-tanaka.html?ref=sports
     
  13. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
  14. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    The news you've all been waiting for...

    --Joe Torre enters the Hall of Fame as a Yankee
    --Tom Glavine and Bobby Cox as Braves
    --Frank Thomas as a White Sox
    --Greg Maddux and Tony LaRussa will have no cap logos on their plaques(!!)

    Hall of Fame Class Chooses Logos - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ny-la-russa-enshrined-hall-fame-logos-plaques
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, LaRussa's explanation makes some sense, unlike some of his managerial decisions and strategies.
     
  16. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    [​IMG]

    Pitchers' Protective Caps Approved - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...rotective-caps-approved-major-league-baseball
    McCarthy, Struck in '12, Won't Wear New Cap - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...diamondbacks-wear-mlb-approved-protective-cap
     
  17. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    A couple of follow-up questions and concerns, I have:
    - Is this a comprehensive list of new reviewable incidents?
    - Seems odd that they would not review 'fair/foul infield'. What's the rationale? Does that mean a ball hit over the 3rd/1st-base bag is not reviewable? That seems to be a more difficult call for the umpire than an outfield fair/foul call.
    - Is reviewing a 'hit by pitch' really necessary? That's something that could take some time to review and isn't a very important call. I mean, not important compared to reviewing 'fair/foul in the infield' which could mean extra bases + RBIs. Reviewing hit by pitch is one step away from reviewing balls and strikes.
    - What happens when a call is reversed? Lets say a ball is ruled foul in the outfield but replays showed it was fair. Then what? How is it scored?

    You will still have the complaining because there is only one challenge allowed per game by each manager. In a way, this encourages managers to complain more than before because now they can actually win the argument (ie. convince the umpires to review it). At least from the 7th-inning on.
     
  18. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    1. A ball hit past the 1st/3rd base bag is an outfield call. The infield call is basically whether a fielder touches the ball in foul ground before it gets to the bag.

    2. When reviewing hit by pitch is necessary, it is really necessary-- bases loaded situation for example. We can hope that we'll see more "no effort to avoid" calls as a byproduct.

    3. Calls have been reversed for many decades. There's already a procedure.

    4. I imagine the league office will have plenty to say to managers who lose/use their challenges and then want to argue later on. (BTW if a challenge is upheld, I believe another will be allowed.)

    And managers have been able to argue umps into conferring on calls for years now. They already have hope of winning the argument...
     
  19. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    #69 riverplate, Jan 29, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2014
    Practically everything but balls/strikes is reviewable -- assuming it is challenged. Fair/foul needs to be challenged for the on-field decision to be overturned.

    As to you're last question about an overturned fair/foul or other calls and how they would be scored, the article I linked states: "The replay official, and not the umpires working a game, would determine where to place runners following an overturned call."

    Concerning hit by pitches, I disagree with you. It IS an important call. Anything that can put a runner on base is important.
     
  20. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Thanks, but are they really going to review whether or not the batter made any effort to get out of the way? I assumed it was only to review whether the ball made contact with the batter.
     
  21. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    It should be obvious in some cases...
     
  22. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    A couple of veterens retirements announced over the last week...

    Michael Young Retires as Ranger - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/10384957/michael-young-officially-retires-texas-rangers
    Michael Young on Baseball Reference:
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/y/youngmi02.shtml

    ***
    Lance Berkman Decides to Retire - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/10372160/lance-berkman-decides-retire-15-year-career
    Lance Berkman on Baseball Reference:
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/berkmla01.shtml
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    riverplate repped this.
  24. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    A-Rod gives up. Maybe he got a load of his lawyer's bill. He also will not be showing up at Yankee spring training as he had threatened to do. Guilty as charged!

    I'm hearing on the radio that one of the reasons he's yielding is because he doesn't want to end up like Pete Rose -- totally ostracised. He wants to remain involved in the game after he retires. Fat chance, fool!

    A-Rod Drops Lawsuits, Accepts Ban - ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/sto...yankees-withdraws-lawsuit-overturn-suspension
     
  25. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate

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