The real question, will we be able to produce a group of youngsters that can take James, Falcao, and cuadrado mantles? Because at the moment we're making Good players, but not 50 million worthy players. Except Mina and Davis on who ironically are center backs
Agree to disagree... Bold means stopped in Argentina. Look Colombian players biggest issue is lack of a EU pass Current NT GK - Ospina directly from Nacional to France. Was a starter almost instantly. Again proven player so jump a little easier DF Armero - stopped in brazil to Italy C. Zapata - Directly from U20 and Dept Cali to Udinese. Purchased because of the U20 tho Arias - directly to Europe from Colombia didn't adapt to Portugal but then went to Holland and started instantly D. Sanchez - Nacional to Europe. Star player wanted by big clubs already. Again maybe not fair because he seems like he can become world class MF C. Sanchez - Directly from Uruguay to Europe never played in Colombia MF Cuadrado - Directly to Europe from DIM. Took him a season to adapt Abel - Directly to europe after great youth cups took him a long time to adapt James - Argentina 1st but again WOlrd class not a great example D. Torres - Dim to Argentina FW Falcao - Arg 1st Bacca - Junor to Beligim Teo - Junior to Turkey. Failed because he has shit for brains. Went to argetnian where again did soething stupid TO mexico again fkd up. Muriel - directly to europe Borja - directly to Europe he failed, went to Argentina failed. Came back to Colombia finished developing now in BRazil by choice as europe teams wanted him Izquierdo - directly to europe and star of his team SO our argument based on the most recent call up. Fine to your point our best players did go to arge 1st but that was over 7 years ago. A lot has changed. 13 went directly to Europe and 2 stopped at Argentina. You always like to bring shit up so ok include your 4 current boca players up. Thats still 6 to 13
Indeed Cassierra scored 11 goals in 17 matches played in Jong Ajax (2nd division) and a few goals in europa league and the endervise with the first squad
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Sin falcao y james tendríamos una nómina muy promedio ....ósea sin duda son los mejores jugadores de Colombia casi de la historia y pienso que Tiend mucho que ver. L. su desarrollo en Argentina Sánchez debería estar en el mismo grupo porque más que calidad futbolística , en Uruguay u Argentina se desarrolló táctica y físico . También otro jugador importantísimo en la selección El mejor teo lo vimos desde Argentina principalmente , sin duda haya entendió más el fútbol
Que un tipo que venía jugando de titular en libertadores , lo presten al equipo juvenil de un equipo es preocupante Hablas como si la liga holandesa fuera fuerte ...el tipo venía jugando libertadores y en liga PROFESIONAL colombiana El hecho que lo hayan mandado al Jong ajax ya habiendo tenido experiencia muestra lo poco que mostró en ajax en el EQUIPO A En la cuenta de Twitter mau a moon que el tipo sigue muchas emisoras de Europa de fútbol ... a mediados de marzo reportó que periodistas holandeses decían que "casierra no tenía calidad para el ajax " No vendamos por favor que el tipo tuvo buena temporada
Again dude that is so long ago..... You think the Argie league is the same as it was when Falcao was there 9 years ago? You love to go back and research stuff to sound super smart. Why don't you research all the guys who went to Argentina then Europe past 4 years. Or guys who went directly to Europe an failed. Anything older than that is just too far back. You are going back almost 10 years. Then say Yepes or Luis Perea, Angel or Ivan Córdoba our best Players but that was what 15 years ago!!!
Nobody have said that Argentina league is the same . You lose the point you are so anxious to talk bs about Argentina that haven't understood Isn't a secret that the infraestructure of clubs there with a lot is your divisions in all. Just produced better players that Colombia The Argentina leagues isn't the same that used to be but still better than Colombia in tactic , physics . Falcao and James are recent examples . Duvan and Teo are good examples In how players can improve there The true is that our "stars " of the league are going to Europe and have been dropped to reserve teams recently . Just proved that our League isn't a big deal that isn't producing Prepared players to the elite just is logic : argentinos that are stars here werent nobody in Argentinan football .
Un tipo que llega con 18-19 años a euripa encuentras raro que lo manden a jugar a 2da division para adaptarse al equipo? No olvidemos qe es su primera temporada Si bien no destaco en el primer equipo, lo hizo bien en el segundo..esta vez no deberia tener excusas para no figurar mas en el ajax
A pesar de la edad ya se desempeñaba en los escenarios más competitivos del fútbol colombiano y el empezó a jugar en el equipo y de hecho en Europa leagues . Lo contrato el equipo a y lo descendieron por nivel . No fue lo contrario Por eso jugó en el ajax Jong ..considerando que la liga holandesa es bastante discreta ...si es un fracaso su temporada Tiene talento para demostrar lo contrario
9 years ago is a recent example? We all had iPods 9 years ago!!! Shits along time ago. Argentina sells more because they are white and use the Bs EUro pass rule. Same as Uruguay and a lot of Brazilians. That makes them more attractive. When teams bought a Colombian they wanted a star player. That would make a instant impact. Like a Yepes, Angel, Córdoba, Luis Perea. Teams don't just get anyone to waste a Non EU spot. Porto did it with Falcao and that opened the flood gates. Before that Udienese was doing well taking shots on our U20 guys. Now our players are more of safe gambles that they can get cheap. That's why you see a ton of random dudes who none of have heard of going to Portugal. Also not trying to insult you. Just think you are using the data you want to use. And as for recent trophies. Santa Fe won the Sudamerica two years ago and Nacional won both the Sudamerica and Copa Lib last year. Didn't Boca get raped by the Ecuadorian team Nacional beat?
last ten years : Colombia : 1 libertadores and 1 sudamericana. Runners ups 2 time in sudamericana ( 4 finals ) and only two teams : nacional and Santa Fe Argentina : 4 libertadores and one runner up in libertadores . 4 sudamericanas and 3 runner ups . 12 finals : Estudiantes , San Lorenzo , River , Boca , tigre , independiente , Arsenal , Lanús and huracán . That Colombia have had a couple of titles doesn't mean that is better than Argentina league in overall Colombian league is less competitive isn't a secret Colombia is exporting and players shouldnt pass through Argentina before Europe . But the players have more adaptation problems than argentinos , because the thing
Indiferentemente cual es mejor liga, Argentina desarolla mejores jugadores que Colombia. Siempre que mandamos jugadores directo de col a Europa tienen que adaptarse mientras que si sale de Arg no siempre pasa asi
Aquí todavía dirige Juan Jose Peláez , maturana y comesana tu como crees que van aprender del fútbol moderno con esos dinosaurios La liga Argentina en crist y todo nos sigue superando , la cantidad de equipos competitivos allá es mucho mayor que la de nosotros
what do you guys think of De La Pava? Someone to possibly take seriously? we don't have a lot of options when it comes to younger up and coming managers. Most of them are very raw. Gio Hernandez, Mario Yepes, Leonel Alvarez etc.
Doesn't Argentina and Uruguay, specifically Buenos Aires and Montevideo, the soccer pyramid is insane? There is like 10 divisions or so right? Compare to colombias what 4?
Was good in 2000 to 2002......then he was shit for ten years (inlcuding a u-23 team in colombia) ...then he imporved at cortulua where he fixed a good team. Imho is a gamble.....
Yepes needs to prove himself in a smaller team or go be an assistant to Pekerman or Rueda. His player choices weren't very good and felt like he just tried to get his friends final pay days when he had a awesome young team that he totally wasted. Alvarez I feel gets a bad rep. Decent option and promising coach let's see how he does in Paraguay. Gio.... I didn't like as a player or coach. He needs to go be someone's understudy. Hope Luis Perea gets a shot. Think he taking the courses or is in one of Atletico Madrids youth teams. He had the best coaches out of the bunch and isn't rushing to coach.
The two best Colombian coaches around are Rueda and Osorio. They have something in common that the rest do not: actual coaching study, most of it done overseas. Small team, big team. It's all the same. When you enter an institution with no prior education all you know is what the institution taught you. Yepes was set to begin his training in Europe before taking the Cali job. Now he's just part of the cycle of 30 coaches in the FPC.
El Atlético de Madrid planea “recompensar” al Levante UD tras romper el acuerdo por Santos Borré https://t.co/rgBVICD0eu #futbol #football pic.twitter.com/IgpvItiEa3— 🔴🔵 Fútbol LIVE (@Futbol_digital) August 8, 2017
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This is the last friendly before the season starts, but it does not have that vibe at all. The crowd is pretty electric after his goal Edit: Nevermind. This is Copa Argentina. And they just advanced. Makes sense now
Borre played the last 15 minutes. He had a decent chance that he curved around the keeper but ended up hitting the crossbar. Last highlight in this video: