Racism...Forever?

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  1. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
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    Tree/forrest.

    I don't think @russ was saying that Whites believe in the White Supremacy that we talk about with Individual One and Rep King and David Duke. I think he was talking about the unchallenged advantages we have because we are White. Another way to say that - how much would you sacrifice to make things equal? I don't mean how much money would you give, but what are the other things you'd be willing to "give up." Would you be willing to forgo a promotion? How about what road should be paved first? What Starbucks you go to? There are a ton of things we take for granted, but don't think about. For example, would you be willing to live in the 'hood? Not theoretically, but right now. Would you uproot your life and move to hood? Would you rent out your home to somebody of color on section 8?

    There are a whole host of things which could be done, but that we don't even consider. Yet here in Milwaukee, there are a segment of Black wealth moving back into the city for a whole host of reasons like the ones listed above, and many, many more.
     
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  2. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
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    Well, I did live in Harlem in the mid-seventies. When the street cops were trying to figure out what was happening on the block they asked me first, and I had to point out the guy across the street who actually knew. He was black you see, so even though he was covered with Marine tats and I had long hair they saw me as the guy to ask...

    And of course I presently live in a Hispanic community and neighborhood-- though to be fair the wife of the couple next door isn't. She's Kiowa by blood, I think, though she grew up in one of the northern pueblos.

    But no. I'm not doing a lot of uprooting any more-- MS has me slowly sliding roward house-boundness.
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    I'm not talking about you or even somebody like my mom, who really could. But I've had conversations with her about why that is happening in Milwaukee. As many times as I have tried to explain it to her, she still doesn't see why a Black family would rather stay in the 'hood rather than move to the suburbs. And the driving-while-Black problem is only one of many.
     
  4. Dr. Wankler

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    That first article is two years old, so probably.

    My first impulse, given everything I've heard about St. Louis cops, some of it from my college roommate who teaches their ethics classes at the community college that doubles as the police academy, is to have strong suspicions in that general direction.
     
  5. Auriaprottu

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  6. Dominican Lou

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    I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up.

    Here's Peggy McIntosh's essay where "white privilege" was first popularized in 1989. It's only a 7-page article and extremely accessible reading:

    https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf

    I found out about this in grad school and I remember all the other grad students more or less longing for a time when this was part of public discourse.

    Well, that time has arrived. "White privilege" is a pretty mainstream term now but it's misunderstood and mischaracterized (willfully and otherwise) by so many people it's pretty exasperating.
     
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  7. I blame twitter and facebook for it.
     
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  8. JohnR

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    Jun 23, 2000
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    Keep the ideas, change the name. And no, I still haven't come up with my own. But I will.
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    American Aristocracy. It has a whiff of British royalty so a slob scratching his balls in a trailer somewhere can still feel good about his station in life.
     
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  10. dapip

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    [​IMG]
     
  11. dapip

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    So all these people think they're King Ralph?

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. Smurfquake

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    I think it's more these guys.
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. JohnR

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    Yep. The people you need to convince with the "white privilege" argument are not the wealthy, who tend to have global mindsets and understand how things work. They realize, by and large, that they lead privileged lives. Rather, they're Bruce Springsteen's subjects -- the working-class guy who thinks that the system is stacked against him. He doesn't believe for a second that he is privileged.
     
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  14. russ

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    Also those are the people who dont get Born in the USA and think its a patriotic feel good song.
     
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  15. JohnR

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    I think that describes most people.
     
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  16. Smurfquake

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    Rashida Tlaib or Ayanna Pressley should use "Born in the USA" at their campaign events.
     
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  17. ceezmad

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    They may find a few verses offensive.

    Yes, it was a protest song, but that may get lost with the SJW crowd.
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Bruce would show up live at an event to play it
     
  19. dapip

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    Papers please:

    1151155722467663877 is not a valid tweet id


    But what about the bone spurs?



    And the Tea:

     
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  20. argentine soccer fan

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    That strategy will work much better if the recession that is due comes before the election.
     
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  21. chaski

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  22. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    Well, we really tried. But Uruguay is a much smaller country, they had it much easier.
     
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  23. JohnR

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    Jun 23, 2000
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    True enough. Trump is dead to water if a recession arrives. He's a bad, unpopular candidate who lucked into office because of a perfect storm. He needs a strong economy to overcome the fact that half the voters immediately and irrevocably loathe him. Even so, it's an iffy proposition for him.

    What I'd really like to see is what appears to be a looming recession in summer 2020, then the clouds break after the election. Now that would be sweet.
     
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  24. raza_rebel

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    If her husband isn't pulling some kind of "long con" with his tweeting, I don't know how they're still speaking.
     
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  25. charlie15

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    Uruguay still managed to keep some black people alive too.... :)
     

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