Racism...Forever?

It was a prank bruh!Arthur Ashe and me was tight yo!

 

I don't get the joke, wouldn't it be coffee with milk to make it chocolate color?


BTW for those that may not know, her fiance is a white dude so he is the milk in the comment.

 

Nastase wasn't exactly known as an ambassador of the sport when he was in his playing days, but he should do better than that.

 

Nasty was friggin crazy on court.McEnroe and Connors dreamed of being that much of a douche.

 

I put Connors below both Mc and Nasty for his attempts to insult Kevin Curren in the 1983 Wimbledon R16. He made a boxing carnival out of a gentlemen's sport. Never cared for any of these three (fave player was Lendl). I'll admit that Mc at his best was the best I've ever seen (and him being a southpaw helped with that), but he wasn't emotionally sound enough to be at his best most of the time. Martina battled with that in the late 70s, seems to be a flaw with serve and volleyers. Guys like Lendl and Borg (and women like Chris Evert) were mentally strong, and I respect that.

 

Vilas was a bad man. One of the best of his era on clay, along with Panatta and Nastase (basically early-mid 70s before Borg). He won two or three Frenches, IIRC.

 

Always been a loose cannon...He hasn't changed with age. Still a douche!

 

Let's not forget Lithuanian-Americans -- and a prince of guy, according to those who knew him.

 

I always thought his name sounded like a venereal disease.

 

I had it as a liqueur...

 

I got to see him beat McEnroe at an exhibition here in town, decades ago.

 

The point is that whites live almost diametrically opposed social world compared to blacks, therefore racial taunts to either group should not be judged equally.

Similar to men and women. "Pig" is about as mean an insult as they can throw at us but there are LOTS of very hurtful and vulgar insults we can throw at them. To pretend that they're all equal is complete dishonesty.

And the question still remains, 100 days into the presidency of the guy chosen because whites were "sick of being made fun of" by those odious coloreds, is justice starting to be served? Is cracker on its way to joining the n-word as the most vile in the English language?

If not, how long do you think it'll take?

 

Never said things were equal between the races. As a matter of fact, I have pointed out plenty of times that I know black men are unfairly profiled by not just police, but in society in general. However, if the attitude is "since we are minorities, we are allowed to throw out any racist, derogatory name towards a white person", why should those same people sympathize with minorities if they seem to be ok with comments like that as long as they aren't about their own race? Seems hypocritical don't you think? Is it asking too much to practice what you preach?

Black people making fun of white people had nothing to do with people voting for Trump. Smug liberals always preaching from their perceived moral high ground, who basically told the white working class to F off because they didnt think they needed them to win an election, is what a lot of Trump voters were sick of. They dropped the hammer on election day, and most of you all have been trying to make excuses for it like Comey and the Russians ever since.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/12/hillary-clinton-working-class/509477/

In the days after her shocking loss, Democrats complained that Clinton had no jobs agenda. A widely shared essay in The Nation blamed Clinton's "neoliberalism" for abandoning the voters who swung the election. “I come from the white working class,” Bernie Sanders said on CBS This Morning, “and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party cannot talk to where I came from.”

But here is the troubling reality for civically minded liberals looking to justify their preferred strategies: Hillary Clinton talked about the working class, middle-class jobs, and the dignity of work constantly. And she still lost.

She detailed plans to help coal miners and steel workers. She had decades of ideas to help parents, particularly working moms, and their children. She had plans to help young men who were getting out of prison and old men who were getting into new careers. She talked about the dignity of manufacturing jobs, the promise of clean-energy jobs, and the Obama administration’s record of creating private-sector jobs for a record-breaking number of consecutive months. She said the word “job” more in the Democratic National Convention speech than Trump did in the RNC acceptance speech; she mentioned the word “jobs” more during the first presidential debate than Trump did. She offered the most comprehensively progressive economic platform of any presidential candidate in history—one specifically tailored to an economy powered by an educated workforce.
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I know. The Atlantic. Liberal Elitists (i.e., catering to people with an attention span who can, consequently, read). Anyway

What’s more, the evidence that Clinton lost because of the nation’s economic disenchantment is extremely mixed. Some economists found that Trump won in counties affected by trade with China. But among the 52 percent of voters who said economics was the most important issue in the election, Clinton beat Trump by double digits. In the vast majority of swing states, voters said they preferred Clinton on the economy. If the 2016 election had come down to economics exclusively, the working class—which, by any reasonable definition, includes the black, Hispanic, and Asian working classes, too—would have elected Hillary Clinton president.
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The article then goes on to talk about, for lack of a better phrase, "economic anxiety."

 

@Naughtius Maximus

 

Yeah, this is similar to what we discussed before.

The 'minority' of people that are the white working class didn't think it mattered.

 

That poll question is flawed. Terrorism, immigration and the economy were all the major factors in Trumps campaign. Since they could only choose one, I am sure immigration and terrorism got a lot more votes then Hillary supporters would have given them. It doesn't mean Trump voters care any less about the economy though.

 

You do realize that now you are arguing that it wasn't the economy, it was fear of all those outsiders taking away jabs and blowing stuff up?

 

You're over-complicating it dude. The problem 'bit' is the part that says...

But here is the troubling reality for civically minded liberals looking to justify their preferred strategies: Hillary Clinton talked about the working class, middle-class jobs, and the dignity of work constantly. And she still lost.​

It wasn't that she didn't mention that stuff. It's that they didn't believe her.

It's similar to the way that the French socialists have disappeared under the waves with their candidate, Hamon, who only got 6.36%, despite the fact they won the last election under Hollande.

 

If they'd had a rigged primary system and indirect democratic election,they could have Hamon run against LePen,with a guaranteed victory just like in US election,where....

Oh.Wait.

Never mind.

 

Except that's not the attitude. The attitude is more like "Racial slurs, much like racial groups, do not exist in equal terms therefore don't have an equal significance."

Honky and cracker are still considered insults. It's not like they're considered part of everyday language. They just don't have nearly the same amount of venom as slurs towards minorities because whites don't experience racial domination, while minorities do.

Oh, ok.

In post #2551 you clearly said that white people not being able to make fun of brown people was "just one of many reasons they get to deal with Trump for the next 4 years."

I'm glad you're realizing how idiotic that was.

Ah yes, they told the white working class to F off by promising:

-To either keep and "improve" Obamacare (Hillary), or go to straight single-payer (Bernie)

-Free college either to households making $125k and below (Hillary), or everyone (Bernie)

-Higher taxes on the super wealthy

-Overturning Citizens United

-Raising minimum wage

-Increasing environmental protection (which affects the poor most severely)

Meanwhile, the Republicans embraced the white working class by promising the exact opposite of every single one of these things. Oh, also a wall to keep the Mexicans out, Muslims banned, stronger police action in "urban areas," etc.

If we're being accurate, the GOP embraced the white working class' worst racial resentments and chauvinism. The smug liberals truly did tell THAT part of the white working class to fuk off. You're partially right.