Racism against Italians

Discussion in 'Customer Service' started by meazza, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
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  2. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Context matters.

    If you have a problem with a post, report it. Don't start a thread about it in a completely different forum.
     
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  3. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
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  4. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Lol No it doesn't. Racism is racism. He was insulting Italians.

    And I'm starting this thread to point out the double standard. If you have a problem, become a mod and delete it.
     
  5. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
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    What did Sal say to get banned?
     
  6. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Italians aren't a race.
     
  7. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
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    #7 Calcio Pauly, Sep 27, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2016
    So then there can be no such thing as racism against Italians, right?

    Tell that to StuporDave

     
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  8. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    What makes Italians different than Germans or Spaniards?
     
  9. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
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    Not being German or Spanish, for one and most importantly.
     
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  10. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    As we determine "race", they're all the same.

    That is, unless you're working with the pre-WWI definition of Italians in the US, when they weren't white/Caucasian, in the racial calculus of the US, yet.
     
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  11. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
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    DC United
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    United States
    Only the racist ones.
     
  12. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
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    So, Mr. Warmth, like I said...not possible to be racist or prejudiced against Italians then, is that right?

    So in your world you fight racism with racism. Impressive.
     
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  13. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're racist against Italians, you're racist against pretty much all ethnic Caucasians, because that's what they are. "Italian" is a sociopolitical group, not a race or ethnicity.
    So,

    1) You admit Sal is being racist

    2) You still fail to grasp that Italians are not a race

    As for combatting racism, both David and I have tried prayer and logic and that doesn't seem to work against ignorance and prejudice, so, I'm personally all for throwing racists off of bridges so that they can evolve wings and fly
     
  14. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    So now you're a murderer?
     
  15. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The district attorney & police determined it was justifiable homicide under the state's "stand your ground" law.

    Charges were never filed.
     
  16. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
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    AC Milan
    That first sentence was so stupid, I couldn't bother reading past it.
     
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  17. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    I have edited the original pots and contacted the poster. The post now reads "posters form the Italy forums" instead of Italians. Context does matter, and this reference to the folks from that forum who did indeed exhibit that posting style/behavior are still accounted for.

    I will also be chatting with superdave offscreen here. That's a courtesy we extend to many posters whose initial post is of the less "fragrant foul" sort of variety. Some people accept that and move on, while others double (or triple, or quadruple) down on the behavior in the first place.

    In the future, if you are indeed concerned about something in real time, then a report is a good approach. I did not read the debate thread last night but was monitoring for reported posts, and a thread here in Customer Service is much less likely to be seen right away. It's totally fine to do it here if you'd prefer, just please remember it'll be up to a day before it is seen.
     
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  18. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    You're in Chicago. That law does not apply there.
     
  19. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would expect a saucier response from a "real Italian". Are you mixed?
    Chicago is not the American Steppe, where I am
     
  20. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had a full and frank exchange of views.
     
  21. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Poor him.
     
  22. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Can you please elaborate in detail?
     
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  23. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Be careful. He has a hard time talking about Italians without foaming at the mouth.
     
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  24. Coyote-Trickster

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would you like me to type slower?
    This isn't World Rivalries, so I'll pass on the batting practice, but suffice to say, the fortnightly "Free Sal" threads just sort of aren't that interesting anymore.
     
  25. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Sorry, I'm not following. Please give some context.
     
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