[R] US Fans Mexico - Cuba Game Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by JayDelight729, Jun 8, 2007.

  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Why put More in in the 44th minute? What does the coach expect to get out of him in such a short time? Who not make that sub at least 15 minutes earlier? Very strange.

    More, BTW, was the guy who scored Cuba's goal against the US two years ago. I think he could definitely play in MLS if he walked away.
     
  2. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Nov 30, 1998
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Well, if it comes down to goal differential Cuba may look back on this result as not so bad. If nothing else, they're going to be a much bigger problem for Panama and Honduras than most thought.

    Good games today. And an entertaining tournament all around so far.
     
  3. kkmmtt

    kkmmtt Member

    Jun 2, 2005
    Where is Garlindo?
    is he with Cuban national team?
     
  4. I. Tristeza

    I. Tristeza Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    San Antonio, Texas
    He looks like a skinny Claudio Reyna. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it's the unibrow.
     
  5. I. Tristeza

    I. Tristeza Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    San Antonio, Texas
    good one :D
     
  6. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia

    A lively crowd?

    I watched the game on the El Crapo Mexican Channel. It was 30,000 idiots who lack the intellect to start up songs and chants and can only resort to blowing on plastic horns for 2 hours straight.

    If that's the kind of atmosphere you enjoy then root for El Tri
     
  7. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    Mexico's group looks really tough. All four teams have shown good ball movement, skill and knowhow going forward. Had Guatemala had the offensive abilities of any of these teams, I think we would have ended up with a tie.

    The US should be really careful when we later play any team from this group.
     
  8. theleftside

    theleftside Member

    May 29, 2007
    Yuma AZ/Oxnard CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps this is the Gold Cup's group of death??


    Looks like Panama is back to where they left off in 05.
    Mexico will struggle more with them.

    ...and of course Honduras (along with Costa Rica) have always been one of those teams that give Mexico and the US a hard time in our region.
     
  9. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    YVAN EHT NIOJ
    Jan 9, 2004
    3 blocks from "SoccerHouse", Chicago
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I'm just suprised that we haven't had any defection reports coming from the Cuban team this year... it almost seems like a bi-yearly event for past gold cups.

    (not an insult to the team or anything. on the contrary that is quite a personal decision to do such a thing)
     
  10. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    Practically speaking, they would be better off defecting after their last game, thus having more time to show their stuff to potential employers. Of course, God only know what threats there may be against their families should they defect.
     
  11. Phenom

    Phenom Member+

    Apr 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well those "idiots" outnumber you at every single Mexico/USA game.

    Also, I find it ironic that you call us "idiots". You'll be calling me "boss" in a couple of years.
     
  12. El Chuma

    El Chuma BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 17, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does that mean, is it soccer related?
     
  13. Phenom

    Phenom Member+

    Apr 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Nope.

    But to stay on topic, the CONCACAF is getting better as a whole.
     
  14. El Chuma

    El Chuma BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 17, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I totally agree, I am happy it is all CONCACAF teams in on the Gold Cup. This tournament will get better and better.
     
  15. Lord15

    Lord15 New Member

    Jun 20, 2001
    Southeast
    Sigh...
     
  16. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Did Mexico play that forward who wears a jockstrap on his head?
     
  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Dude, it's the Gold Cup. There are NO Groups of Death.
     
  18. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Yes, but after the last game the security gets tighter as it's time to get on the plane back to Havanna. Likely easier to walk away when they think you're less likely to do it.

    Based on last night's game and previous games, the three Cuba players I think have the best shot at doing well in MLS are Reynier Alcantara, obviously, who scored a nice goal and looked good all night; Osvaldo Alonso, who had the assist on the goal with a nice run and a nice cross and played well on the right side most of the evening and Lester More, who only played a couple of minutes last night (no idea why) but who scored vs the US in 05 and had two against Canada in the 03 Gold Cup.

    Alonso might have the biggest upside as he's only 21 (11/11/85) but Alcantara is in his prime at 25 (1/10/82) while More is still in his prime at 28 (9/13/78) but is likely closer to the end of his career than the beginning of it though with his size he could likely be an effective target forward for a lot of years.

    Odds are the older you are the more likely you are to have a family and that makes the decision to defect a lot more difficult. I have no idea if any of these three players are married and have kids but if I had to guess, I'd say that Alonso doesn't, More does and Alcantara might. So, with that in mind Alonso might be the most likely player to make the leap.
     
  19. Northlander

    Northlander New Member

    Dec 5, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    lets also recognize that all Cubans are not born with the inherent desire to defect to the U.S. In fact I would say it is becoming a less and less tempting prospect to many today, although it is certainly still there.
     
  20. locster

    locster Member

    May 16, 2006
    Mexico always plays bad against crappy bunkering teams, hence why they always lose against the U.S.
     
  21. darkworkz

    darkworkz Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Because Mexico bunkers? I think you're right.
     
  22. I. Tristeza

    I. Tristeza Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    San Antonio, Texas
    How about the US, Mexico, the 1990 Costa Rica squad and Honduras c. 2001?
     

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