Question about WR board.

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  1. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
  2. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    That's basically what WR is for. I don't like it much, so I don't go in there much. Easy solution.
     
  3. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Thanks. I have been hanging around in there a fair bit over the last 3 weeks. I might just stay out of it. As what many ppl have told me it is a zoo and I shouldn't go in there.
     
  4. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    The mods whine about it all the time and the rules are regularly broken by all. When someone does try to follow the rules, these so-called mods suddenly disappear and hang you out to dry. In short, no rules apply there so just avoid it. That place will remain a complete joke until the supermods pull their finger out or it is finally closed.
     
  5. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
  6. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    I think you are missing the point. I just asked a question and it has been answered I don't think that I am whinging about it. All I did was just ask a question about a particular thread.
     
  7. Sakuragi

    Sakuragi Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Like somebody just said, that's what WR is for. There's only one main rule to follow there, and that is, if you can't take it, don't dish it. Simple as that. We've had our fair share of incompetent mods in that forum, but have been dealt with properly. Rest assured the WR forum is fine as it is. The purpose of the World Rivalries forum is to maintain (or try) all the trolls in one spot. And that's exactly what it does.
     
  8. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I'm disappointed... my Australia thread was far more creative. :cool:

    World Rivalries is for piss-takes. It's not a thread for everyone, mind you, as you should have thick skin if you go in there. However it appeals to the lowest common denominator - that being people seem to love the piss-takes and the general... *darkness* of human nature. Hence many people do go into World Rivalries and lurk there anyways but don't want to be associated with the 'filth' that exists in the forum. :D
     
  9. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Some of the threads on there seem to be picking the cultures of many countries, not just australia's culture. This can be deemed as a racial attack on those ppl and others who don't like racism. I could imagine the kids who go on there to type this sort of thing up, would be thinking if their parents saw what they typed. They would probably be in some serious trouble at home.
     
  10. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Ok, this is Australia's first real "hate" thread. When you reach 20,000 like the US has had come back and talk to me.
     
  11. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    ... then their parents should monitor the sites where their children go to. Bigsoccer is not a daycare.

    Cultures often get mocked and made fun of in that forum. Doesn't matter what it is, it will usually get made fun of. Goes with teh territory of the forum - the Greek team gets made fuin of, the English team gets made fun of, the Italians, Americans, Brazilians, Mexicans, Argentines, Spaniards, Iranians, Koreans - they all get made fun of from football team on down to petty cultural differences.

    Said it once, I'll say it again. The forum isn't for everybody. If someone doesn't have thick skin, they have no business going into that particular forum. And there's nothing wrong wiht not wanting to put-up with the people in that forum at all. However... people do have the ultimate choice - which is that there are over 100 other forums on Bigsoccer that they can visit; nobody is forcing them to post or visit World Rivalries.
     
  12. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    They should but they don't.

    I wouldn't like to see my aboriginal friends or my other friends come on here and read what these ppl have said about them.


    As I said it is a Zoo and nobody should have to put up with the racial rubbish that that forum provides.
     
  13. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    The problem about the rivalries board is that its fast becomining a microcosm of life.

    People know it exists, knows what its about goes inside and is appalled at what he or she finds in it.

    To quote the late Oscar Wilde:

    What the fvck do you expect?

    The people who are up in arms about it are the exact same right minded individuals who criticise too much porn and violence on TV... But would be equally appalled if such violence and porn leapt out from the backwaters and into their wholesome family living room or onto their streets. If you don't like it don't watch. The same rule applies here.

    Calling someone a stupid American, and reeling off the big book of colourul cliches is not racism. Calling someone a sp*ck, a ni***er and a w*p is...

    I have a feeling that the whole board is going to be scrapped because a few humourless people who can't stand the heat yet feel somewhat obliged to stand next to it and feel their face melt off. And/or people who have no conception of what racism is, and feels morally obliged to take some Orwellian view that every word uttered by everyone on the face of the earth is offensive. But only to themselves and their own idiosyncratic tastes.

    I have got no problem with the board and I do believe personal attacks should be stopped, but let's make a clear distinction of what racism means and what is deemed offensive. Because we reach a whole new level of liberal PC bulls***t when we start defining new epithets for racism.

    Its not to everyone's tastes, and quite frankly if I post in there, whether it be to wind up or not - I do not reserve the judgement or right to protect the sensitivies of other posters. Why should I?

    Because I know for a fact all it takes is someone humourless pricks to shut down the cess pool of the site and then moan when trolls infest their board elsewhere.

    Either develop a sense of humour or don't go in there.

    The choice is simple.
     
  14. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    That's the problem, you are caring about what they think... Don't they have their own mind to decide what is offensive or not? Why do you decide for them? Why do feel as if you know it will offend? In fact what do you care about them? Are they too morally apathetic that they have no business in deciding what they themselves should find offensive and should seek solice in your view?

    I'm sorry, but the whole - they would find it offensive or they wouldn't like to see it - just rings false.

    Define 'racial rubbish'?

    Stereotypying is not racism - personally insulting a person on the basis of their ethnicity is.

    If you do not like people saying bad things about others in a place meant for people to say bad things about others, then go and live a cave away from civilisation.
     
  15. Sakuragi

    Sakuragi Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Now, that's a quality response. Repped.
     
  16. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    True ganu.

    It is when ppl go too far in those threads that ppl like myself can't handle the stuff that we are reading.
    I am sure that you would feel the same way if a joke went too far. Ppl like yourself can take a lot of this type of stuff because you are used to it.
    You don't mind it if somebody called you are certain name because of where you are from.
    That's why the mods who are on there are meant to be keeping an eye on these ppl who go too far.
    It is kind of like bigfooty's The Limbo CLub. It is right down the bottom of the page because there are some on there who take things too far.
    What I don't mind is a bit of banter with ppl saying my club > your club and go on about that.
    Or if it is do to with favourite players then I don't mind that. However, if somebody did mind it and emailed the thread to that person then they would be fuming because ppl have criticised that particular player.
     
  17. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Racial rubbish is where there is a heap of racial comments directed towards a particular country and it's residents of that country also about these residents who have different features like colour, race and cultures.
    Australia is a multicultural country. We have Italians, Greeks, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, English, americans, South Africans, Dutch, etc all living around in various states around here. They all have their own customs and their own cultures which should be respected by all.
    It is when ppl start up a fight all because they don't like that person because of their colour, their race, or their cultures that many ppl get angry about that.
    I am going to ask you a question Ganu. This is going to be serious. Have you met other ppl who are from other countries who are natives of their countries? they will show you what their culture is like and in some cases they won't allow you to laugh at them.
     
  18. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Hiddink Magic, stay out of the form or stop complaining that's as simple as it is going to get. WR is not for everyone as Ganu said so eloquently. I really think that if you saw some of the crap spewed before you joined about Americans, Mexicans, English, Irish and other ethnicities you would have been appauled. So please either stay out or stop your whining.
     
  19. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    Hence 'Rivalries'...

    The problem is again you directed some idea that because calling someone a stupid American is an automatic assumption that all Americans are fat and that this consitutes some racial obscenity.

    It doesn't.

    Uh-huh. Maybe they do - but not on WR. That gives the freedom for a South African to take the piss out of Americans and vice versa. Its not a case of respecting others culutres its the intention to say something intended to wind up someone else and say something funny.

    If its a singular person and his own attitutdes and beliefs are attacked etc - its a personal attack and should be stopped. If its an attack on his people and a vague notion of some stereotypfied situation of his so called racial group - its not racist.

    I am English, I find nothing appaling about what people say about my country. I shrug it off, either agree, disagree with what they say or spew some hate back where it came from.

    That's very interesting because most cultures around the world, do have a sense of humour and can laugh at themselves. But again, if you do not understand the way that place works then it is impossible trying to come to some sort of rational explantion as to why the dynamics of it are so wrong.

    The answer would be, people do say stuff like that. And you have to put up with if you do decide to read it.

    Its supposed to get a laugh. If you don't like it, don't like the taste, don't like the way its presented to you, then don't go in there and post. Its simple. No-one is forcing you to read the dribble that goes on in there.

    Most of the Aussies who saw those threads just laughed it off and found nothing offensive about it, because they saw the harmless fun in it.

    But again, why does this concern you?

    Why are you bothered about other people think? Its not your concern to protect others from what you deem is offensive to them...

    If you yourself find it offensive. Don't go in there. It's a simple choice.
     
  20. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    they aren't doing it out of hatred, they are trolling. They are trying to get an angry response. With those people the best response is to enter into the spirit of it, and give a little back, or just walk away. Getting angry is exactly what they were trying to achieve.

    Sometimes people starts posts with wome quite amazing beliefs about certain countries, and for them, you just take the piss and watch them get irate.

    Sometimes people do just spill out a tedious line of hate. Just ignore those threads.

    Sadly for you, Aussies appear to be the equivalent of the Turks of 2002, who were here like a rash predicting their greatness for the next two years, before disappearing back under a rock after failing to qualify for euro 2004. You have to learn that if you stick your head above the parapet and declare your greatness, you have to be prepared for people shooting it off.

    It's not a PC place, and that's a good thing. I'm more concerned about people who take such attitudes to other forums and froth at the mouth with rage at everyone who disagrees with them.

    ps, who is this Hindink character?
     
  21. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    As people have said before it is best to either enter the spirit of WR or not go there. Your reaction is exactly what the people who post there are looking for.

    That said, it is fairly ridiculous that the tag line for the forum is

    "NO RACISM OR PERSONAL ATTACKS TOLERATED. This board was created to remove more juvenile content from the main boards. However, personal attacks, racism, and other violations of the TOS will result in a prompt card and/or the removal of this board."

    when in truth, the whole forum is purely racism and personal attacks, however jokey they may be.
     
  22. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Hiddink why don't you just request to have your access turned off? It won't even appear on your screen and won't tempt you to enter.
     
  23. Huss

    Huss Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    The whole concept of these boards is currently being revisited.
     
  24. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    good to hear that Huss.
     
  25. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Don't want that to happen. I would like to see the board cleaned up totally. Which is what Huss is organising.
    I have friends who have come on here and have left because of the dickheads picking the crap out of them the whole time.
    The fact that the ppl who spend most of their time in there and deliberately get themselves into some serious trouble on there concerns me. I don't want to get sucked in by these ppl getting into so much trouble for posting their crap about other ppl.
     

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