Quarterly Quarrel - The Financial Discussion Part 5

Don't doubt that the Neymar deal was part of it (the price for Dembele being jacked up). And here, Dortmund are surely aware of United's financial might and spending power. They're not going to be inclined to gift United anything.
Not to mention, whether they are legitimate or not, but the reports from some sectors of the press that Sancho is United's top target of the summer and/or that they are ready to spend upwards of 100mil on him, are elements that will be only more conducive in Dortmund driving a hard bargain for Sancho.

 

Look, I'd be fine spending 100 mil on Sancho, but I dont think it comes to that unless one of thing big money teams shows serious interest. That's my point.

 

I get that's your point, I simply don't believe it will be that simple or easy (for reasons explained ad nauseum). Hope I'm wrong obviously when it's all said and done and hope we can get him for as cheaply (and easily) as possible. We'll see, I guess how things will turn out...

 

Rivals’ grand designs put Glazers’ neglect of Old Trafford in spotlight

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...tlight?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

 

So we can conclude 200million aint enough to get us competing for title..

 

Spending 300 mil won't have us competing for the title.

 

No amount of money would be enough, if spent badly but by any reasonable logic, 300mil Pounds should be more than enough to have United seriously contend for the title. We would be able to add major quality, in pretty much all positions of need, which complimenting what we currently have could make us legitimately tough and contending for the title.
We're in contention for the lower end of the top 4 as it is. With 200mil, we should be a shoo in for it, and thus outsiders for the title at minimum.

 

Even if (big if) we spend wisely and sufficiently, City and Liverpool having invested now have settled squads, managers & systems.

We have a relatively new manager, potentially a bunch of out-going players and potentially a bunch of incomming players. So will need to integrate some new players.

Best we can realistically hope for is being there or thereabouts (ie top 2/3). A “proper” ie “as equals” run at the title is unlikely - as even best case summer those two have a couple years evolution on us.

 

I’ve been a fan for 20 years now, and I stick by and continue to watch/buy merch. I’m getting extremely tired of the rebuilding process and the continual missteps. You have to wonder how fickle a majority of the other over seas fans are, and when (if not already) they will start to wane their focus. They’ll eventually leave it, or even switch to a better team. This will ultimately start to affect our income and thus the team. I’m not saying I’m going anywhere, but I already know people who don’t watch anymore.

 

I'm just as passionate about the team as always, but it's a different type of passion. I used to get excited for games, especially against big teams. Now I dread them to a degree.

I'm tired of the "if we just buy xyz this summer we'll be competing" thats heard over and over at the end of each season. We're making poor decisions from the top down as a club. I agree that the clubs status is going to start fading. As the next generation of football fans start watching games, there's not a lot to make them United fans unless through location or family.

 

Still making money;

"The club posted revenues of £152.1 million for the quarter, up 3.4 per cent from last year, which translate into earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA) of £174.9million for the year to date and an operating profit of £72.1million."

Six year failure Chief Exec Ed Woodward said;

"After a turbulent season, everyone at Manchester United is focused on building towards the success that this great club expects and our fans deserve.

"Preparations for the new season are under way and the underlying strength of our business will allow us to support the manager and his team as we look to the future."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...olskjaer-after-turbulent-season-38117970.html

 

Real have passed United as the most valuable brand in club football.

Honestly surprised that we were still ahead of Real in that dept until this year.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...r-united-as-most-valuable-football-club-brand

 

How did Real go up +27% this year?

 

We are going to keep going down until we regain form. Value eventually has to go down.

 

Uhh I've got to get this for my bathroom:

Principal partner to @ManUtd, we celebrate the 20th anniversary of the team's historic Treble win with the Treble Collection. #KohlerUnited pic.twitter.com/AobwiiNL46

— Kohler United (@KohlerUnited) June 3, 2019

 

The United fans have made a huge statement tonight#GlazersOuthttps://t.co/NKFSrn4mIb

— Daily Star Sport (@DailyStar_Sport) June 19, 2019

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“The debt is £500m, there’s been no capital paid off it since 2011.” 💰

“Share sales have brought in £452m, none of its been invested in Man Utd.”

“The owners of Man City have put £1bn in, the Glazers have taken out £1bn.”@DGoughie on the Glazers amid #GlazersOut protests. 🔴 pic.twitter.com/G66T1ZdS45

— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) June 25, 2019

 

United are still in the top 10, however they've fallen from 2nd to 6th, with their value going from $4.12 Billion last year to $3.81B.
By contrast, other English clubs making the top 50 are Pool, who have climbed up 5 spots to 25 ($2.69B), Chelsea who climbed 14 spots to #32 and Arsenal, who gone down 3 spots to #42.

 

Didn't realise Ed was on over £4m pa - worth every penny ....

We’ve been asked to post this in solidarity with our fellow supporters, which we oblige.

An open letter to the Glazer family from millions of concerned Manchester United fans. #FiveKeyQuestions’ pic.twitter.com/ChpgguADPG

— The United Stand (@UnitedStandMUFC) July 29, 2019

 

This is the finest piece I’ve read on #MUFC in years. Straight to the point with examples. I’ve been accused of negativity but please, if you’re a #MUFC supporter, look. I’ll say no more other than it’s ESSENTIAL reading. Thank you @DanielHarris https://t.co/TGr1vOmtyk

— Tom McDermott (@MrTomMcDermott) August 9, 2019

 

According to MEN, our contract with Adidas stipulates that we lose 30% of their sponsorship revenue if we fail to qualify for CL in two consecutive seasons.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/adidas-clause-could-cost-manchester-16927708

If true, makes it even stranger that there was so little net investment in a summer when so many players left.

Reminder:
In (3): Maguire, AWB, James
Out (6): Lukaku, Herrera, Sanchez (loan), Fellaini, Valencia, Smalling

The old quoted figures for the Adidas contract were 75M pa - so I guess losing a third of next years sponsorship revenue is not that big a drop in Glazers eyes when compared to paying out for replacement players. Especially if they are facing a dip in TV revenue this year.

Difference in fans goals and current owners goals ...

 

That 20 million is more than offset by the reduction in wages that goes with not qualifying. You think they would have agreed to that with Adidas if it was coming out of their pocket?