Quarterly Quarrel - The Financial Discussion Part 5

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  4. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  6. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The real bottom line and what really furthers any club's brand are results, winning. Trophy haul is what really ultimately matters, not how the team plays. It's a by product, an added bonus that make things more enjoyable if we get it.
    It does not transcend results from a financial point of view.
     
  10. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably along time Woody pretty much said that the brand pretty much sells it self and that (potential) sponsors aren’t concerned with form.
     
  11. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    you are correct about title haul.But you can't ignore the fact that the way we play would ultimately affect viewership. i myself have started skipping live matches and view only highlights,
     
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  12. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  13. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sincerely, what's the point in supporting a team then?

    Wouldn't you enjoy the sport more as a neutral, selecting the games you watch based on the clubs' style of play?
     
  14. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to say that i will stop supporting united because our playing style not good now. I am attached to this club and don;t see myself supporting any other club in this lifetime. But i also don't deny that lately our football has become a little boring or less fun.
     
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  15. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one is denying that for the past 5yrs (and going on 10 if we're really being honest) that the style of football played at the club has been less than what we've wanted, in varying degrees.
    And there's no question that we still have some work to do on that score, but the original argument was about the club as a brand and what can ultimately affect it. And I don't think it can be argued that the lack of trophies/not winning, will hurt the club more and far sooner than not playing entertaining football.
    As I said, we have to go back to 2010 to see us play in a manner that was very pleasing. We didn't gripe much about the style for 5yrs, because we were still winning. And SAF while being a legend, with his place firmly entrenched at the club, kept his job partly because the club was still winning, even if the football had noticeably gone down in quality.
    Success is still what affects the bottom line first and foremost, not the style of play necessarily.
     
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  16. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Noted.

    And to be clear, that wasn't an attack. I just have a different mindset. For me, support is about riding the roller coaster. It's the peaks and troughs that make the highs so meaningful.

    I've read a number of times on this forum that people aren't watching our games for various reasons. That's not something that would have occurred to me as an option previously.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think this is truer of a different era

    e.g. when I was a lad, Canterbury Rugby went thru very hard times and Auckland won like 8 titles straight. It was just assumed because Auckland had 1m people, that we'd never compete again. But you watched anyway thru those simply horrible games because that is all there really was to watch. NZ cricket was the same. So many terrible experiences of watching mediocrity.

    IMO the difference now is I just don't have to watch bad content, because my options to watch are vastly expanded.
     
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  18. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I am happy with the stock price.
     
  22. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Most poignantly of all, given the original birth of this series of threads, it's proof that the furor over the Glazers was indeed premature and grossly OTT.
     
  24. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Somehow after this transfer window we seem like a big club in name only.

    What is the point of being valued as one of the biggest if it is not reflected in the value of the squad.
     
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  25. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    We're getting really close to being what Liverpool was 5 years ago...a team who's culture and fans are hung up on previous successes to distract them from the reality that they're no longer one of the best clubs in the world.
     

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