Qualification Rule in Libertadores

tretman · May 20, 2007

Hi to all. I want to learn what is the decider if a tie is level on aggregate. I searched but found 2 different info.

Wikipedia says "Conmebol began to use the away goals rule with the extra time used only in the final matches." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores_de_América

But in an article at goal.com it says "Santos being able to go through even with a goalless draw thanks to their higher CONMEBOL coefficient and better performance in the initial group phase."
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=305857

I'm waiting for your answers, thanks in advance.

jass · May 20, 2007

Ive never heard of that second rule. Im pretty sure a 0-0 means extra time and then penalties. 1-1 means America goes forward

Latin Pride · May 21, 2007

I personally don't like the away goal rule, I think it's a bit unfair. If both teams are tied on goals it should go to extra time and penalties.

chao · May 21, 2007

I think no away rule goal in Libertadores Cup.

For example;

Santos - Club America finishes 0-0 or 1-1 or 2-2, the match goes extra time and then penalties.

I am not sure about the extra time rule.Last seasons the matches which finished with a tie, went to penalties directly.

SideshowBob · May 21, 2007

Latin Pride said: ↑

I personally don't like the away goal rule, I think it's a bit unfair. If both teams are tied on goals it should go to extra time and penalties.
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How is it any less unfair than having one team get extra time and penalties at home?

At least both teams get the same amount of chances (90 minutes of time in each stadium) in the "away goal" scenerio. I don't think away goals is ideal, but it's the "fairest" system I've seen (short of an impractical solution of a third game at a neutral site).

Oh, and Libertadores does indeed use "away goals" now. They switched within the past few years (2005 IIRC).

dapip · May 21, 2007

http://img.conmebol.com/csf/pub/articulo/2007/reglamento_Libertadores_07-nuevo.pdf

En caso de igualdad de puntos entre dos o más clubes en la Segunda
Fase, las posiciones se definirán por unos de estos procedimientos:
a) A favor del club o de los clubes con mejor saldo de goles. La
diferencia de goles se obtiene restando de los goles marcados, los
goles recibidos.
b) Si la diferencia de goles de dos o más clubes fuera igual, el club que
haya marcado mayor número de goles será el ganador.
c) De subsistir la igualdad, la posición se definirá a favor del club con
mayor cantidad de goles a favor actuando como visitante.
d) Si después de estos procedimientos dos o más clubes mantuvieran la
igualdad, se definirá la posición mediante un sorteo.
5.2 En caso de igualdad de puntos en cualquiera de las otras etapas (Primera
Fase, Octavos de Final, Cuartos de Final, Semifinales), al cabo del
segundo partido, se aplicará el procedimiento establecido en el punto 5.1.
anterior inc. a), b) y c). Si aún así, persistiera la igualdad, se ejecutará la
serie de tiros desde el punto de penal, conforme a las normas de la FIFA
hasta definir el ganador.
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Translation for those who do not read spanish:

If they are tied in points after the second game, the items to decide are:

1) Goal Difference
2) Most Goals scored
3) Most goals scored away

If the are tied on all the items they go straigth to PKs. As I read it, they do not take in account results from the previous rounds.

5.3 En caso de empate en puntos al término de las dos Finales, se
consagrará campeón el equipo con mejor saldo de goles. De mantenerse
la igualdad, se recurrirá a un alargue de 30 minutos dividido en dos
periodos de 15 minutos cada uno. Si al término de este alargue de 30
minutos suplementarios persistiera la paridad, se definirá al Ganador por
definición de tiros desde el punto penal, conforme a las normas
estipuladas por FIFA.
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In the final, to break the tie they use only goal difference. If they have the same number of goals they play two extra times and then PKs.