QF # 4 Mexico vs Chile June 18th [R]

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  1. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Ah, fair point.

    Argentina's also gotten theirs in 1993 against Colombia :p
     
  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Mexico tends to choke in the first knockout.
     
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  3. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    And in 09 against Bolivia
     
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  4. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    Partidos que no se dan dos veces. No hay 7 goles de diferencia entre Chile y Mejico. Pero Chile hizo todo bien en este partido, y Mejico todo mal, en especial su defensa.
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Es verdad , pero dudo que Chile pueda verse tan mal frente México....si Chile es el que estA tan errático
     
  6. Gerlestat

    Gerlestat Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Venezuela
    Club:
    Caracas FC
    Country:
    Venezuela
    As Venezuelan, in Venezuela we use "ahorita" that means "not righ now, but not to late"...

    And P*to means mmm Gigolo, a man that offer sexual services to whoever another men, women or both...

    So here in Venezuela a P*to is a B*tch
     
  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    No sé si el horita sea el mismo de acá en Colombia , pero eso acá es un misterio para los extranjeros ..que espacio de tiempo hay
     
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  8. Zasal2000

    Zasal2000 Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    it's that mysterious time that George Lopez calls ' right now'...not to be confused with 'right now right now' or 'later later'....somewhere in the middle
     
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  9. Gerlestat

    Gerlestat Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Venezuela
    Club:
    Caracas FC
    Country:
    Venezuela
    No en el presente perfecto, no en el futuro lejano, ni en el pasado lejano, sino en el momento inmediatamente antes o después del momento actual, dependiendo del contexto...

    Por ejemplo:

    1.- "Mijo, usted que estudia idiomas, dígale al perro que se calle"... "Si, ahorita le digo"
    2.- "Mijo, ya le dijo al perro que se calle?"... "Si, ahorita le dije"...

    Así pues, al buscar en Google la definición de "ahorita", se tiene el siguiente resultado:

    Queda claro entonces que es lo mismo en Colombia, que en México que aquí...

    Ahora, P*to aquí es diferente que en otros lados al parecer... Un p*to aquí es un prostituto como una p*ta es una prostituta...

    Así pues, nosotros no vemos como homófobo el grito de "PUUUUUTOOOOO" de los mejicanos!
     
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  10. Zasal2000

    Zasal2000 Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    Chile can beat anyone in the world. The question of 'juggernaut' or whatever is about whether they have shown they can do it consistently, and that's a matter of perspective.

    I'd say there may be, at most, 2-3 teams that should scare an opponent more than Chile.
     
  11. Zasal2000

    Zasal2000 Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    El dia del sabado esa diferencia si existio y con justicia.....incluso, un resultado justo por ocasiones etc. pudo haber sido 10-1
     
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  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Exacto esa de chicharito tenia que entrar :D
     
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  13. Gerlestat

    Gerlestat Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Venezuela
    Club:
    Caracas FC
    Country:
    Venezuela
    I know, sorry, but i had to post it...

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Country:
    Colombia
    Ahorita explico lo de pv to...

    Listo. The dictionary definition of pv to is a pejorative term for one of two things: Homosexual y male prostitute (gigolo).
    It could also be used as an adj. to mean 'f*ing'/bloody xxx. But that's irrelevant here. In other contexts it can mean 'mujeriego' y 'miedoso'.

    Now when the mexicans yell this word at the opposing gk with the intent of insulting him, what definition do you think is the one they mean: f@g, gigolo, wominizer/man-whore, or 'miedoso'?
    Just food for thought.
     
  15. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    homosexual
     
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  16. Gerlestat

    Gerlestat Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Venezuela
    Club:
    Caracas FC
    Country:
    Venezuela
    Yo creo que mas bien es Miedoso...

    Es como la canción de Molotov... En ese contexto se entiende que son cobardes...
     
  17. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Country:
    Colombia
    Could be, but I doubt it.
    This whole chant started with the fans of Atlas of Guadalajara, when former gk (y creo que canterano) Oswaldo Sanchez signed for cross town rivals Chivas.. I guess in that sense it ment more like traitor?

    Either way, one of the 2 most common definitions is f@g, so they should know that that's how most of the spanish-speaking countries will understand that chant, and why some are upset about it.
    A different discussion is weather or not it should be allowed, or just brush it off as part of their futbol culture, or even if FIFA has the right to intervene.
     
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  18. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    There is no comparison between Mexico's 7-0 defeat and Brazil's 7-1 (to Germany), or Argentina's 5-0 (to Colombia) because those national teams have won World Cups, consistently produce top 10 players in the world, and are always WC perennial contenders.

    There is a believe, by some, that Mexico's FIFA world ranking are inflated due to victories over mediocre teams in CONCACAF.
     
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  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    and between brasil 7- haiti 1 :eek: .???
     
  20. 764dak

    764dak Member

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Paraguay lost 6-0 in Copa America 2007.
     
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  21. 764dak

    764dak Member

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    FIFA rankings have Confederation weightings so beating a 50th ranked team from CONCACAF gives less points than beating a 50th ranked team from South America and Europe.
     
  22. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    La canción de Molotov se refiere a un gay.
     
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  23. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    Why looking so back in time ?

    Peru got their butts spanked 6 - 0, pretty recently at WC qualifiers. Their slayers were Uruguay in 2008.
    In that same WC qualifier process, 7 months earlier, Ecuador did something similar to them, beating them, 5 - 1
     
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  24. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    Yes, but when they play 2 Continental tournaments (only against teams of their own Confed), those results get multiplied by the factor used for continental tournaments, which is 2.5 times. So even if they may be less points proportional for that game, it's still a great load of points, which inflates their ranking. Same happens for all the few top "puppies" in Concacaf, btw. Mexico particularly, also manages to get more points by playing regularly at CA.
     
  25. 764dak

    764dak Member

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Yes, but FIFA rankings are based on averages. So beating the same rubbish team 3 times works out the same as beating them once.

    This website discusses rankings: http://www.football-rankings.info/

    FIFA rankings are still flawed when a team like Nigeria is ranked 61st and Hungary and Bosnia are in the top 20.
     

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