QF #1 USA vs Ecuador June 16th [R]

Discussion in 'Copa América Centenario 2016' started by sidspaceman, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    Ecuador won a game against Haiti. The worse team of the competition. SO?
    At least we have one Copa America title
    How many does Ecuador have?
    None. Zero.
    I don't think I am the king of the world. Ok?
    You are the one who started after I posted that the ref did badly for both sides. I didn't start with the offenses. I never had any problems with any Ecuatorians on the forum. And we didn't buy the title.
     
  2. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    Ok enough is enough drop it.

    Keep it futbol related.
     
  3. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    All of you need to relax.

    Ecuador aren't a good away team. Has nothing to do with the altitude. In the 2014 qualifiers they didn't win a single game away from home. While the win over Argentina was 100% deserved, that's only 1 game and Argentina was on an off day with Mas and Roncaglia being useless especially against a team with good wingers. I'm not counting the win over Venezuela as Venezuela were awful with Sanvicente. You're all forgetting how easily Colombia beat you in Barranquilla.

    Ecuador are a very good team and very underrated, but I think we all overestimated them a little bit and forgot about them usually not being a very good away team.
     
  4. Gringo Ecuatoriano

    Jun 15, 2015
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Considering your post originally sounded derogatory towards Ecuador why would I not respond to you? Also Chile played some of the dirtiest football in last years cup , dubious calls in favour of Chile and that's not suspicious? By the way good for you guys man, I bet you'll be saying that when Chile goes back to the bottom of the table like in 2002. I'll leave it at that .
     
  5. Gringo Ecuatoriano

    Jun 15, 2015
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I've never said Ecuador is a top 5 team but they are going through a rough patch right now. 2016 hasn't been a very good year , lots of injuries and other issues. But the criticism launched on Ecuador is always pretty unfair, okay so Ecuador isn't great away how about Paraguay? Or Peru? Why whenever Ecuador loses away everyone makes the point that it's because we suck away from home? Show Paraguay's recent track record or Peru or chile's away and it's even.
     
  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    Peru couldn't even beat Venezuela in Lima. So what is it you give Ecuador 100% credit or did
    Argentina having an off day?
     
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  7. Timbuck

    Timbuck Member

    Jul 31, 2012
    Will 3 players out for the next game, will we see some of the young players we've (I've) been waiting to see. Will Pulisic and Nagbe get to touch the grass?

    And if the Zardes goal was the opposite- IE Zardes tried to slot the ball to Clint, how was into the stands does Zardes send it?

    Why does Clint look so unhappy all the time?
     
  8. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    I don't think Clint was trying to slot the ball to Zardes. He was shooting, and fortunate that an always hustling Gyassi was there to finish it off. And, a pretty nice first touch by Gyassi to get the goal..... :)

    As for Tuesday, I'd expect Beckerman in for Jones in a straight swap, although perhaps that keeps Beckerman deeper and pushes Bradley slightly further forward, assuming the team isn't under such constant attack that there are chances to get people forward.... After that, I'd be surprised to see Pulisic to start, and think Zusi, Nagbe, and even Wondo are more likely to get the call. Not my choices, but my guesses. Also, is it possible that Yedlin moves to the midfield and he keeps this back 4 together?
     
  9. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Country:
    Japan
    I take him to be somewhat unemotional. When he gets "in the zone", he's like that, I guess. I don't doubt his hunger for a second.
     
  10. Outburstz

    Outburstz Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Country:
    United States
    No no no no no no no no did I mention no
     
  11. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    I hope you're right....
     
  12. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Country:
    United States
    He's been like that since he turned pro in 2004 with the revs, maybe even further back. Dude is a pure competitor which I LOVE as a USMNT fan.

    God I hope so. Yedlin has pace, but not a whole lot else. He is a younger Kevin Alston who makes tons of mistakes that are covered by his speed and can put in marginally better crosses.
     
  13. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I think he was going for one of those condescending pats on the face that every player hates. The still makes it look way, way worse than the slo-mo replays, which showed him (IIRC) sort of grab (thus the locked arm), then with a semi-open hand, kind of missed. Still, the rule changes are pretty clear.
     
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  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    --other--
    #214 HomietheClown, Jun 17, 2016
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    Great win for the United States of America. And Seattle was one of the reasons as I expected. Great home field environment.

    Ecuador tried their best to tie it up and send it to penalties. Kudos to them. But the USA was just a little bit better at the end and held on.
     
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  15. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    I think it's also good for tourney hosts to get this far. Better for tv ratings and overall buzz. But as I mentioned many posts ago, Ecuador doesn't seem to play with the same confidence and discipline that they do at home. They're missing a bit of that element that helps them slow down the game a bit . They transition very quickly to attack but tend to leave very little support for their defenders. But that's all water under the bridge at this point. Ecuador can leave this Copa with their heads up high. They gave it a great go and this prep will all mean that they will be a bit more prepared for 2 tough games in Sept WCQ vs Brazil in Quito and vs Peru in Lima.....
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I got this part of my prediction right. :p
     
  17. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Country:
    Argentina
    Both were onside with E Valencia alone against the keeper but the linesman seemed intent in stopping Ecuador from scoring.
     
  18. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Country:
    Argentina
    Dempsey should be considered a legend in American sports. Single handedly wrecked the Ecuadorean defense.
     
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  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The service form Jones on that first goal was beautiful though. So technically it was not single handedly.
     
  20. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Country:
    Argentina
    That's true. And only after the double send off did Ecuador really come alive - the US lost more with Jones than Ecuador with the anonymous A Valencia.
     
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  21. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    And that's why the Landon D. exclusion from the WC still surprises me. He too, was/is a US legend.
     
  22. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    I think Ecuador needs to get Paton Bauza to be there coach. He is a legend at Liga de Quito and is married to an Ecuadorian and has many times expressed his love for the country and his desire to coach the team.

    I don't much like his style, but damn, if Ecuador was just a bit more organized and tactically and emotionally disciplined, they would have won that game last night. That, and if Enner Valencia had actually been able to finish his chances, of course.

    The USA is definitely a decent team and will give Argentina big problems. However, their strengths are the same as always: physical condition, pressing ability, intensity, and attitude.

    They have only one player worth fearing individually though. How long will Clint keep this up? Last night was an epic performance. He'll be 35 in Russia 2018, yet I think he'll still be the main guy. Is there anyone else anywhere in the USA capable of scoring goals?
     
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  23. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Country:
    Bolivia
    Yes the strengths are the same but the work has been done so that we play the game more than we used too. We don't just run, we combine. We search out advantages. There is more thinking done. However its also true that we aren't producing enough special players at least not as much as we hoped. On the other hand the quality is more even across the field.
     
  24. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia

    It's pretty obvious why.

    The disparity between Ecuador's performances away vs at home is much more striking than anyone else's. At home, you guys are an absolute juggernaut. Outside? Not so much. We all know the statistics.

    Peru, Paraguay and everyone are about as shitty as you expect them to be both home and away.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    El Patón just started this year a very juicy contract with Sao Paulo, knowing Brazilian soccer he won't be free for another year or so, until they crash out of Libertadores.
     

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