News: Qatar World Cup To Be Played in Winter

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  1. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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  2. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    No they didn't - The General Secretary said something on French Radio.

     
  3. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say that counts. Sorry. Sepp don't play stupid. Crooked, yes. Trial balloon, maybe.

    It's only the precise date that's in question. Not the move to winter.
     
  4. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Still not seeing a press release from FIFA on this.
     
  5. porchlight

    porchlight Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Crawlumbus
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    Columbus Crew
    [​IMG]There is competition for winter TV viewing....What
     
  6. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    FIFA says pump the brakes.

    http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1674525/fifa-insists-no-decision-made-yet-2022-world-cup?cc=5901

     
  7. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. Swellster

    Swellster Member

    Jun 26, 2011
    Dallas
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    What he actually said if you listen to the snippet (and can understand French) is that he thinks it only makes sense to play it in the winter and that he think it will be between November and January. FIFA is often guilty of damage control, but not so much on this one.
     
  9. cbus3

    cbus3 Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 9, 2009
    Paxdecke
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The winter can have the world cup. But if it want MLS.... ******** that.
     
  10. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #10 Bill Archer, Jan 29, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2014

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jesus Christ, this is such bullshit. You can't just helicopter in to this topic and say shit like this. It's intellectually insulting and you ought to be embarrassed and no, I'm not going to get into one of your stpid "Joe Paterno is really a great guy" endless arguments. You're just wrong, wrong, wrong.

    FIFA"s Executive Committee is the only contracting authority for World Cups. Period.

    Last October, Sepp Blatter demanded that they agree to the principle of moving WC 2022 from June/July, as the registration certificates specify, to the Winter, dates to be decided afte consultations.

    The Executive Committee refused to do so. Instead, they commissioned a study group to discuss the issues with the various stakeholders which is scheduled to report back next summer.

    Let me repeat: Sepp Blatter has no authority to move a World Cup. And Jerome Valcke is an underling, a bureaucrat. He can't authorize a goddam thing.

    Do you know nothing about FIFA at all?

    For one thing, there are enormous TV contracts with outfits like Fox Sports who, in a combined bid with Telemundo, paid a billion dollars for the rights to a soccer tournament in June and July of 2022.

    Think they'd mind much if FIFA decided to move it to the holiday season, the bowl season and the NFL playoffs?

    And that's to say nothing about the European leagues who say they would have to start shifting their season schedules two years in advance in order to switch to a March-to-October schedule, and they're not about to try operating without their stars and you can't ask those stars to play 18 months in a row without a rest.

    There are so many questions and issues that, frankly, this thread is just stupid.

    And to say that "FIFA just announced this"? Run over to fifa.com and link to their media center news feed. They don't change brands of toilet paper in the men's room without a media release. Bet you won't find a "FIFA ANNOUNCES WORLD CUP MOVE" article anyplace. Go head, I'll wait here.

    Blatter has been saying this kind of thing off and on for months now because he's an idiot. Now Valcke has spoken out of turn as well. The Executive Committee is furious, with Platini and others livid over the assholes in Zurich pretending that something has been decided.

    IT. HAS. NOT.

    Now in point of fact, November-December is probably the only thing they can do. The IOC quite literally threatened to expel soccer from the Olympics - and they're not that happy about it anyway because it's the only Olympic sport which refuses to allow their best players to play - if they even THINK about using the January-February window which would step on the Winter Olympics.

    And Valcke really blew it when he commented that it would be Nov 15 - Jan 15 since that would bleed the thing over into 2023!!!! Huge violation of the existing contract that would almost surely legally require a re-bid. Moving it out of the summer dates that the contract stipulates is enough of a legal hurdle.

    And to start a thread calling it "NEWS" that Qatar 2022 will be in the Winter is just wrong, inaccurate and demonstrates a complete ignorance of the facts.

    It was just Jerome Valcke talking and he has quickly backed off his remarks in the face of Michel Platini threatening to cut his balls off.

    Get a ********ing clue instead of stumbling across some stupid article and racing to post it like a noob.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Epic. ********ing. Rant.
     
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  12. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
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    21 days later, but epic nonetheless.
     
  13. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
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    United States
    Timing is only important in comedy.
     
  14. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    so now we have two viewpoints, who to believe, who to believe....
     
  15. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bill: I misread the article and the headlines. I should know better than to assume headlines have anything to do with a story--or reality. Yet it's at least FIFA testing the waters.... But there's also no need to go off on something posted almost a month ago. Old news. Or to bring up an old point of disagreement that *I've* let drop on these boards.
     
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  16. Flyer Fan

    Flyer Fan Member+

    Apr 18, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Some day Archer's going to overcome his shyness and start putting his true thoughts and feelings into words...
     
  17. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And when that happens?

     
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  18. TZPrince

    TZPrince Member

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  19. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    Sounds like it is happening in Nov-Dec and FIFA gave Fox a no bid contract for 2026 as payment for moving it.
     
  20. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've also heard that.

    No doubt that infurates NBC, ESPN and maybe even BeIN.
     
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  21. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, but what cost are associated with changing a schedule that is 7 years away?
     
  22. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    About the same amount it would cost FIFA to change to a location that could play in the summertime...

    Let's put it this way... Why should 20+ leagues and hundreds of teams pay any extra costs to change their schedules for one tournament 7 years in the future?

    I have not deep dived into it yet but have seen where leagues may have to start making calendar changes a few seasons in advance in order to adjust for starting earlier the year of the cup itself and/or playing longer into the summer the months after a Winter World Cup. And then clubs must adjust them back to normal afterwards since the following WC will most likely be a summer tournament again. What is the benefit to the club for doing all this work? Nothing. Who benefits from all this work? Sepp. As much as we like to think of soccer teams as our passion/hobby, there are a lot of owners that look at them for what they are: a business. And doing charity work for Sepp is probably low on their list of things to do.

    And remember, a November tournament affects MLS at America's favorite sports time: Playoffs and Championship. "Come see the guys who couldn't make the WC Team battle it out for the MLS Cup" is probably not the marketing dream of Donny G. and the B. of D.
     
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  23. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If MLS Cup was in early October, that would give players about a month off to join up with their national teams and gear up for the World Cup...not an ideal situation.


    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31620713
    FIFA (naturally) rules out compensation for unhappy clubs.


    http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...021-confederations-cup-wont-be-held-in-qatar/
    FIFA says 2021 Confederations Cup won't be held in Qatar.
     
  24. The Misanthrope

    Aug 8, 2008
    Columbus Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If FIFA can be bribed to put the WC in Qatar, why shouldn't the leagues be able to extort from FIFA? :confused:
     
  25. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And thanks so much for following my blog.

    Always appreciate a faithful reader.
     

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