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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    What were those suggestions?
     
  2. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Only problem with that proposal, considering the available match dates starting from June 2021 (month, where the next 2020-2021 Uefa nations league will end) in the FIFA calender, is that the Uefa WC qualifiers would have to extend themselves, almost till the 2022 WC begins, as for this whole period there are only 14 match dates available (10 match dates for group stage, and 4 matchdates for the playoffs).
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    oh yes, and you must almost forget to have any pre-WC friendly match for any of those qualified teams, as there will not be any dates available for that to happen.
     
  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you have that wrong - UEFA are considering single-elimination playoffs like they will do with the Euro, so only 2 matchdays are needed.

    That is, WCQ would take place in the 2021 calendar year (March, June, September, October and November), with the Nations League finalists using up both their WCQ off days in June. Then, the WCQ runners-up + next best 2 from the Nations League would play in essentially three semifinal brackets in March 2022, the winner of each qualifying for the World Cup.
     
  4. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    They where posted just a few posts above...
     
  5. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    If so, you'd be correct.
    (me, wrong)


    That would do it.;)

    Just pray that none of the Uefa nations league finalists happen to end in the same WCQ group (easily solved, if they pospone the Uefa draw for WCQ, after the group stage of the next Uefa nations league has finished).:confused:
     
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  6. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Indeed, that isd what they did for the euro2020 preliminaries,but it would signal the end of the plenary WC preliminary draw.
     
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  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm guessing that would be the exact plan.
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you for posting that there won't be a draw at one time. FYI Sierra Leone was reinstated before the article was written.
     
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Question:

    Can someone around here explain to me why we should move on with a Qatar World Cup after all we have learned about the bid and the recent arrest of the former UEFA president in cahoots with this farce of a tournament???
     
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  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (Blood-stained) construction contracts have to be fulfilled?

    Infantino doesn't want to risk pissing off the AFC (as unpopular as Qatar may be with a certain contingent there) and jeopardizing his next reelection bid?

    FIFA can't be arsed to care about corruption until they're forced to do so?
     
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  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Well .. can you explain why they should move it ? I mean, what are repercussions if they don't ?

    If it's just the corruption issue, I mean ... it's not like previous WCs weren't bribed either.
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Just for the optics of it.
    Two wrongs do not make a right. And the previous World Cup corruptions were found out AFTER they were played not 3 years before. Apples and oranges.
     
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  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    They don't care about optics. 3 reasons to move it:

    - Fans won't watch it (won't happen)
    - Sponsors drop out
    - FBI :ROFLMAO:
     
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  14. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    could be moving
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Good.
    Hope it happens. Enough is enough.
     
  16. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  17. Gistavo Amaral

    Jun 28, 2014
    Recife
    Club:
    Nautico Recife
    They're letting us dream...
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It may be more than a dream.
    Odds makers just dropped the odds for England hosting to 6/1.
    They may be getting some inside info on all the secret rumblings in the FIFA meetings.:ROFLMAO:
     
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  19. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    #3269 Marius Tresor, Jun 18, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2019
    What are the likely alternative sites? England (UK joint host?) comes to mind. Spain/Portugal? I appreciate the rotation issue and Europe being host last time, but most other alternatives could not host on short notice. Maybe China?
     
  20. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    England or Portugal/Spain would be perfect.

    Get the World Cup out of Qatar.
     
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  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not absurd to think more people would turn-in to a WC in Europe during summer than one farther away in November when people are at work.

    Though not sure FIFA cares. I assume by now broadcast rights have been sold in all the big football countries.
     
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  22. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think same number of people tune in. But if not, as you said, rights have been sold already. As for attendance, ticket sales go to the host country. Now isn't that slick ?
     
  23. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Don't you think they would still have to keep the dates the same? Seems like the qualifying schedule has already been set. A November/December World Cup in western Europe is still doable weather wise though.
     
  24. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    At this point if your going to move it you might as well put it back in its proper time of year.
     
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  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    FIFA allegedly gave FOX and Telemundo rights to the 2026 World Cup on the cheap so they would not take them to court due to breach of contract.

    It would be funny if it went back to the Summer and they still had rights for 2026.
     
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