PBP: PSF - FC Bayern München vs Manchester United FC - Aug 5, 2018 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    [​IMG] vs [​IMG]

    Competition: International Champions Cup
    Venue: Allianz Arena
    Time: 19:05 (BST), 14:05 (EST)
    Channels: MUTV(UK)

    Manchester United squad

    G: Romero, J. Pereira, Grant, de Gea
    D: Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Valencia, Bailly, Smalling, Tuanzebe, Mitchell, Williams, Shaw, Dalot, Jones
    M: Herrera, McTominay, Garner, A. Pereira, Hamilton, Matić,
    F: Martial, Greenwood, Bohui, Mata, Chong, Gomes, Sánchez, Lukaku, Rashford

    Manchester United injuries: Dalot (knee)

    Preseason results so far:
    1-1 draw with Club Fútbol de América SA
    0-0 San José Earthquakes
    1-1 draw with AC Milan
    1-4 loss to liverpool
    2-1 win over Real Madrid CF

    Last Encounter: 1-3 loss (UCL 2015)

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    last game before the real thing
     
  2. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Martial needs to play.
     
  3. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    But how much of a Jose move would it be to bitch about not having forward options and how Martial should be back with the team, and then get him back for this game and have him sit the bench and play youth guys ahead of him. I can totally see this happening but Jose is a vindictive little prick.
     
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  4. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    I can see two scenarios.

    1) not get called up at all.
    2) get called up and start.

    Jose is an extremist, those two options are.
     
  5. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I hope its the second but I just cant see it. Jose is usually not the one who caves or tries to be the bigger man. He routinely puts is ego and persona ahead of the good of the club.
     
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  6. Futbol_Head

    Futbol_Head Member+

    Manchester United
    Aug 18, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could see him not even getting called up and Jose complaining that he picked up an injury or is not fit.
     
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  7. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The best possible outcome would be for him to start with kids mostly and tear BM apart.
     
  8. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    can we also be honest about how martial has looked in the u.s. in the games that he did play?
     
  9. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Dangerous in flashes but also looked uninterested. Also nobody to play off of and never got the ball back when he tries 1-2s.
     
  10. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not being played in his best position most of the time did not help matters either, if we're talking about being completely honest. He's really not a CF and he either has to play on the left side in a front 3 or in a front 2, he ought to be deployed where Mata was during the latter games of the tour, playing deeper and in support of Sanchez (or whoever the actual CF is).

    The squad for today's game has been released and Martial is not in it (Lukaku did not make the journey either, apparently):
    Dave, Grant, Darmian, TFM, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Mitchell, Shaw, Fred, Herrera, AP, McTominay, Garner, Mata, Rashford, Sanchez, Chong, Greenwood.
     
  11. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeah, so you wanted him to travel across the Atlantic 3 times in a week to play in a friendly but now that he's back with the team for a couple days now isn't the time to include him in the squad?
     
  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Called it. It's the most obviously Mourinho thing to do. Bitch about not having something repeatedly and then once he gets it he doesn't use it.
     
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  13. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    so now up top is also included in his "not preferred position list"? i can swear to god y'all had me believing that it would completely free him up.
     
  14. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    you're kinda glossing over the fact that he doesn't want to be here, no? his agent said two months ago that he wanted out.
     
  15. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    sorry for the multuple posta but im not even caping for mourinho here. i dont care whether he gets fired.

    im just done with martial and his constant whining. hes not good enough to half ass it. same reason why deschamps didnt take him to russia while other bench players like giroud made the trip. it's never his fault.
     
  16. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's been pretty evident now that every time Martial has played as the main CF up top, he's hardly been as productive as he's been elsewhere. And personally, I think that the idea of Martial as a genuine 9 should be put to on the shelf for now (under Mourinho at least or until we get proper support around him to get him good service at least).
    And that is why, I believe he's far more effective on the left side in a front 3, or with a front 2, as used recently, he'd be the attacker in support of the other (as Mata has been of late).
    I'm interested in seeing him perform at his best and no shoehorned anywhere, presuming he's a good fit for a position when he's got no track record of success in it recently...
     
  17. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  18. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well then sell him and replace him. Bitching about his availability and not playing him when he's available is counter productive. Nobody will pay top money for a top talent if all you do is slag him off and bench him.

    Safe to say Martial has got about half of the stuff he's responsible for wrong. Mourinho probably 9/10 things wrong. Stop caping.
     
  19. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    in the US is it going to be on MUTV?
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    United's XI: Dave, Darmian, Bailly, Lindelof, Shaw, AP, Herrera, Fred, Mata, Rashford, Sanchez

    Bayern fielding a strong team of their own.
    Neuer, Kimmich, Sule, Hummels, Alaba, Martinez, Thiago, Ribery, Robben, Gnabry, Muller
     
  21. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Martial should have been playing instead of Rash.
     
  22. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    does anyone know of any streaming sites for US fans?
     
  23. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Acestream: 2158527e1de83b7e5aef68ce3bdfacfb4517d9e1
     
  24. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The app seems to be replaying the match against Madrid. Not sure what’s up with that. My hope is that it is an error. Earlier it had a countdown to encryption which says to me maybe there was a free trial for everything but the match?
     
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  25. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Yeah. I thought the same thing, then did some research. The game is only for British users. I ll use Acestream (haven't used it in years).
     

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