Anyone see and have opinions on the Rose yellow card? Presumably classified as a reckless challenge on the goalkeeper. I’m asking if anyone felt it needs to be more.
I’m watching the match now and just caught up. Quite frankly, the PGMOL’s position and those from Halsey and all his friends is astounding. That is 100% a penalty. Years ago it was debatable. It’s not anymore. Kane wasn’t close enough to challenge for the ball. He was blatantly fouled before he could. It’s a penalty. If you asked Elleray or Collina or Busacca, they’d probably be shocked this is even up for debate. The changes made by the IFAB in this regard have been specifically to ensure this type of play is called a penalty. The English penchant to find controversy everywhere and for its officials—long self-identifies as the guardians of the Laws—to seemingly deliberately not keep up to speed never ceases to amaze. There’s a hypothetical where the ball is much closer to Kane and this call gets much tougher. But this was not close or tough. It’s disappointing that referees are helping to feed the media frenzy. EDIT: and Walton. Jesus. Walton is nearly always wrong. It’s fascinating and frightening.
Halsey doesn't surprise me anymore. Seeing Shearer say he's gotten direct info from PGMOL that this is offside is much more baffling. EDIT: Maybe we should put the guy who wrote this article on TV since he actually understands the "gaining an advantage" clause.
So Walton and halsey disagree with the official fifa position? Rose's 2 feet to the keeper should be red..if that happened anywhere else on the field..straight red
Clatts in his Column in the Daily Mail says the penalty awarded on the Kane foul was correct. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...award-Arsenal-penalty-north-London-derby.html
I'm hoping this wasn't Clatt's wording "Lucas Torreira slid in recklessly on Danny Rose and you can clearly see him catch the Tottenham defender in the shin. This was worthy of a red card, 100 per cent."
Related to my comment above, I agree. There is an English penchant--even at the highest levels of refereeing--to be supremely confident in knowledge and application of Laws yet incredibly imprecise with language. I'd really love to know if they are as imprecise in match reports. Does "reckless" just mean what English referees want it to mean in common English referee law application? Or do they actually write things properly per the LOTG when it comes to dealing with competition authorities?
Unfortunately, it seems like it's probably similar to young referees when they fill out their first supplemental and the administrator says "can you rewrite this and change the word 'recklessly' to 'violently'?"
Unless the powers that be are fine with that language, too. It seems so ingrained in the refereeing culture there, I think it's very possible that "recklessly" is language that flies to justify a red card in England. But I'm obviously just guessing.
Saturday 9 March 12:30 Crystal Palace v Brighton Referee: Craig Pawson Assistants: Lee Betts, Daniel Cook Fourth official: Stuart Attwell Cardiff v West Ham Referee: Graham Scott Assistants: Neil Davies, Derek Eaton Fourth official: Andy Madley Huddersfield v AFC Bournemouth Referee: Anthony Taylor Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn Fourth official: Andre Marriner Leicester v Fulham Referee: David Coote Assistants: Stephen Child, Simon Long Fourth official: Martin Atkinson Newcastle v Everton Referee: Lee Mason Assistants: Harry Lennard, Constantine Hatzidakis Fourth official: Mike Dean Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur Referee: Kevin Friend Assistants: Matthew Wilkes, Simon Beck Fourth official: Lee Probert 17:30 Man City v Watford Referee: Paul Tierney Assistants: Eddie Smart, Adrian Holmes Fourth official: Chris Kavanagh Sunday 10 March 12:00 Liverpool v Burnley Referee: Andre Marriner Assistants: Scott Ledger, Richard West Fourth official: Mike Dean 14:05 Chelsea v Wolves Referee: Michael Oliver Assistants: Stuart Burt, Darren Cann Fourth official: Roger East 16:30 Arsenal v Man Utd Referee: Jonathan Moss Assistants: Simon Bennett, Marc Perry Fourth official: Martin Atkinson Moss for the big match for fourth, Tierney and Marriner in charge of title contenders.
I am certainly not a Palace fan, but they were done wrong today. Knockaert commits a studs up to the groin slide tackle 10 seconds in. It is textbook SFP. Gets cautioned when it was a clear send off. Goes on to score the game winner. Referees need to be ready from the kickoff and be ready to make big calls immediately. Palace is fighting relegation and they were certainly wronged today.
Newcastle v Everton Pickford does his best middle linebacker impression on Rondón, who would have had an easy tap in. Pk but no misconduct given.
It doesn't make it right, but when was the last time you've seen a red card for SFP one minute (or in this case 10 seconds) into a match? According to the Laws there is no such thing as too early for a red card, but in reality there is. You literally become the story of the game. It's just not going to happen. Maybe VAR might change that next season...
Tottenham-Southampton game shows Poch on the phone with his assistant while in the stands. Is this legal? The cameras clearly showed it was happening.
Yes, but it is a failure on the part off referees to not make the proper call. You’re approach is killing the game. Red card offense in the first minute ... but no one gives a send off that early. Mugging on a CK ... but everyone holds on a corner. A history of reffing failures is not a reason to continue with failure.
And that's the sort of inconsistency in application that drives supporters nuts. So Torreira is sitting on a 3 match suspension for a tackle that was no worse -- probably less so -- than Knockaert's today. But the former's was at 90' + whereas the latter's was at 1'.
Shocked that Lee Mason is involved. Shocked, I say. Anyhow, it all came out good for Newcastle as their winning goal was offside. Other than that, it was a fine play, Mrs. Lincoln.
There are all of those unwritten rules that for better or worse have been accepted as part of the game. The first minute red card, muggings on CK, the “soft” careless foul that turns into trifling if committed inside the PA. How much of that to the players and supporters really want to change?
All of it. If the laws were enforced as written, we’d have one shitty year of adjustment. After that, the game would be as clean as rugby. No back talk no diving proper enforcement And yes, the majority of fans would give up a year for proper enforcement. If fans know the rules and know they will be enforced, they’ll be happy. What they don’t want is to see this crap go unpunished in the first minute only to see their guy get tossed for far less in the 61’