Potential 2030 World Cup Hosts

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  1. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    For the case, they could also play in El Alto, which is even higher than La Paz (about 400 m. higher).
    :p
     
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    Athletic Bilbao
    Colombia
    Apr 29, 2019
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Not surprised at all.
     
  4. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    With Grondona and Blatter, this would haven't happened. They would have convinced the Chinese to bid for 2038.
     
  5. National Team Football

    AIK
    Sweden
    May 8, 2019
    The associations that have a confirmed plan to bid is Morocco, Uruguay-Argentina-Paraguay-Chile and Romania-Greece-Bulgaria-Serbia. But Cameroon, Egypt, England-Scotland-Wales-Northern Ireland-Republic of Ireland and South Korea-Japan-China also expressing interest.

    If FIFA keep awarding hosting rights based on confederation as they have recently, I find it unreasonable they would be awarded to an asian country since Qatar will have hosted the World Cup only eight years prior. Even though South Korea, Japan and China are really far away from Qatar geographically, they are all AFC nations. That rules this bid out for me.

    Another bid I am fast to reject is Romania-Greece-Bulgaria-Serbia. I don't question their ability to host a 48 team World Cup, but nonetheless I just don't see them succeeding in voting. Other bids would be favored more.

    It is possible hosting rights will be awarded to an african (CAF) nation, since the most recent edition hosted by an african nation was South Africa in 2010. Still though, I don't see Cameroon nor Egypt getting enough votes. Morocco is a seriously underrated contender, though. They have bid to host the World Cup many times but never succeeded. Morocco have surprisingly good footballing infrastructure, though, and are one of those nations you don't think can host the World Cup when they actually can. Sadly I think they'll have to wait for another World Cup or two before being awarded hosting rights.

    Another solid bid is England-Scotland-Wales-Northern Ireland-Republic of Ireland. Great footballing infrastructure, one of the best footballing traditions in the world. What's worth pointing out is that it doesn't quite coincide with how FIFA awards hosting rights to the World Cup based on confederation. Brazil (CONMBEOL) hosted it in 2014 and Russia (UEFA) hosted it in 2018.

    Uruguay-Argentina-Paraguay-Chile are South American (CONMEBOL) nations, which I think it makes it the most likely World Cup bid to succeed. On top of this, it celebrates the FIFA World Cup's 100 year anniversary by returning it to where it started (Uruguay).
     
  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So has Morocco completely ruled out joining forces with Iberia? 'cause now that 2026 is out of the way, I'd be more than happy to see a ESP-POR-MAR WC bid (leaving aside the thorny issue of ignoring Gibraltar).
     
  7. jesta

    jesta Member

    Feb 9, 2014
    good old sepp :D:rolleyes:

    if it doesn't happen in 2030 it will very likely happen in 2034, pretty sure they wont have to wait until 2038!
     
  8. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    East Asians have tetraphobia. In many varieties of Chinese, the words for 4 and death sound very similar.
     
  9. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    There's also Oruro and Potosi. All cities in their own right with clubs that have won the league and represented in the Libertadores. The idea of prohibiting La Paz is anathema for Bolivians because it prohibits a huge percentage of our population. We are after all "the altiplanico team".
     
  10. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would love to see this bid happen and succeed. I think #1 on my list, just ahead of the South American bid. I hope it happens.
     
  11. jesta

    jesta Member

    Feb 9, 2014
    Many would, but it is going to be UK followed by China four years later. Those are the hosts that would bring the most money and that is the only language FIFA understands.
     
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  12. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately, I think you are going to be right.
     
  13. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Why Unfortunately? The most recent bid was all about who made FIFA the most money. It's just a shame that the two before that were about who made particular individuals within FIFA the most money. I think making the most money for FIFA is a step up from that.
     
  14. jesta

    jesta Member

    Feb 9, 2014
    @almango,
    this is very interesting point of view! for a second I almost agreed, but that's one fact unfortunately taken out of context! the coming world cups with 728 participants in 34 countries and 7989 games are simply killing it! infantino is much worse than blatter, actually much worse than anyone else in football, ever!
     
  15. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant unfortunate purely from my own selfish point of view. I personally look at World Cups as much more than a pure football match watching experience, and want to see new interesting places and have new unique experiences in addition to the games. For me another visit to the UK would be boring, as I've been there many times and as an American don't find the UK particularly exciting. Yeah the stadiums are probably the best in the world, the logistics will be easy and efficient, but I just wouldn't enjoy it as much as some of the other places where I haven't been. This is also why I have been so down on Qatar, I have yet to hear about anything there outside of the football that interests me in the least.

    I actually would probably like China a lot and wouldn't be that disappointed the more that I think about it. I think they would put on an amazing World Cup for us visitors. Sort of how I felt about Russia. I was initially disappointed but as I thought more about and read up on it, I looked forward to it and ended up having a terrific time there.
     
  16. jesta

    jesta Member

    Feb 9, 2014
    yepp, I can only second that
    and about china, it will depend a lot on host city selection. china has so many huge and interesting cities noone of us ever heard about, and world cup there might get very very interesting. of course if they focus on beijing-shanghai-guangzhou/shenzen it might get boring, if they show a bit of imagination it might get really cool, even with huge distances!
    on the other hand, in 2034 I will be nearly 70 if I make it that far, so it is all going to look great in TV :D
     
  17. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we are of similar age and this also is a factor in my personal preferences. I'll be 73 in 2034 and although I keep myself fit, realistically with every 4 years tacked on it will get harder and harder to get around with each World Cup. That's why I wished the US hadn't won 2026, put that easy one off until I'm in my 80s! Same as the UK one. Plus there are so many places I still want to see.
     
  18. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    At least people are honest and admit having selfish reasons! My selfish reason for wanting the UK to win is so that I can attend without spending a fortune.

    Brazil was the dream foreign World Cup destination and I've done that now. Haven't experienced a home World Cup and if we don't get the next European one I probably won't.
     
  19. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    for us visitors a UK World Cup would be the most expensive option. London is crazy expensive, especially for lodging. Another reason I really hope this bid doesn't win. But if it does, I'm sure I'll enjoy it, just not as much as the others.
     
  20. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It would be cheaper than most as internal travel costs would be minimal and there is tons of accommodation. Obviously stay at the Savoy and it will cost a fortune. Booking.com has 8,668 hotels in London and statista says there are over 130,000 rooms. That compares to 67,000 rooms in Moscow. Add in AirBnB and there will be way more rooms than demand. Prices will barely change from the usual as non-football guests will be put off as happened for the Olympics. Manchester or Liverpool would be cheaper alternatives to staying in London. Newcastle would have an excellent atmosphere and be affordable. It definitely wouldn't be as expensive to do as Russia or Brazil were if you wanted to visit multiple cities (unless you were staying in the North East of Brazil and perhaps visiting Sao Paulo). Qatar will probably be ridiculously expensive for accommodation unless you want to camp in the desert. The USA will have cheap accommodation costs if you want to stay in one place but will be expensive if you plan on travelling around.

    I understand not wanting to go somewhere you've been before but the UK (possibly with Ireland) would be relatively cheap due to the number of incoming flights, number of hotel rooms and short internal distances.
     
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  21. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I agree with Steve - at least from North America, between flights and easier internal traveler UK seems cheaper than China. Same for Brazil and South Africa -flights and internal travel were expensive.
     
  22. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I don't believe China is a potential 2030 host, but is a potential 2034 host. Current FIFA rules would need to be changed for China to host in 2030, and whilst its always a possibility there are still two factors that I think will prevent that and will have the world cup somewhere else. The first is that its the centenary cup and South America is keen to host it as they hosted the first cup. The second is that its only one cycle now that UEFA agreed to go from every second cup to every third and I doubt they will be keen to go to a longer cycle. If Conmebol is the host confederation in 2030 then it wont be until 2038 that China will have a decent chance.
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know...if China were somehow allowed to bid for 2030, I'm not certain CHUPAR would stand a chance against the new-market potential of another WC in the Far East.

    UEFA's interest is a bigger factor IMO. Potential bids from the UK and/or Iberia+Morocco would be frontrunners from the start.
     
  24. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You make good points and I agree, my thinking came from my London experiences. I've gone to Liverpool, Birmingham and Manchester the past 3 years on my annual April football visits and agree the hotel prices at least on weekends is surprisingly low (<US$150/night), especially compared to London. I pretty much just use hotels from the Marriott (now Bonvoy) chain and in London they are usually in the US$500/night range, so I always use my points there. My experience from the last 2 WCs is any chain's rooms for points are almost blacked out during the tournament. Of course there are cheaper 2- and 3-star alternatives and I agree having a lot of rooms available will keep prices low, as they did in Sao Paulo in 2014.

    Trains are obviously cheaper and travel times shortened by a lot as even with a short flight you have to deal with checkin, security, etc. I probably spent about US$2000 on flights for 2014 and 2018 (5 or 6 cities over 3 weeks). So that is an advantage.

    So I agree there's a lot to be said for a UK World Cup. But still for me personally, I would like to see some different countries and cultures. And as much as there are some differences between English cities, they are still similar as compared to Brazil or Russia's, or even the US (maybe less so).

    100% concur on Qatar, I think the lodging and at least alcohol will be crazy expensive. Hotel lobby bars are already overpriced and I wouldn't be shocked to see US$20 beers during the WC. My level of enthusiasm for WC2022 is still extremely low.
     
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