Potential 2026 WC Hosts (Update: Morocco Sole Challenger to CONCACAF Bid)

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Are large stadiums preferable? Of course. Should a number of countries with otherwise excellent infrastructure be locked out from hosting the World Cup? No.

    I think a capacity requirement of 30,000 (like in the Euros) is just fine. Countries like Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Austria and Switzerland could stem 3-4 such venues in a joint bid.
     
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  2. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never implied that. Having smaller stadiums would be fine for group stages but once knock out starts larger stadiums are needed. A final in a 45k would be unacceptable.
     
  3. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    It will always be preferable a fully packed 30,000 stadium, than a half empty, 60,000 stadium.
     
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  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    30K is still fine for the new Round-of-32 and perhaps even some R16 matches. Quarterfinals should be 40K, semis 50K and final 60K minimum.
     
  5. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Currently (or most recently) FIFA require two 60K+ stadiums for opening match and final, with the rest 40K+. I'm with you, in the expanded world cup we can use 30K+ stadiums for a lot of preliminary matches.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  7. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Good FIFA stuff in this one. To paraphrase, "we never codified the rule that a confederation that hosts a WC can't hosts the next two, we might want to actually codify that. But we might want to eliminate the rule because China is a rich autocratic state and we'd like them to bid for 2030."
     
  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Heck, another Copa America type cup could make twice that much if it has better organization, better promotion and teams that could fill up the stands from Central America.
     
  10. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Probably true. How many times can they go to that well? Every four years indefinitely? Every two? Do we need Copas in South America anymore? Do players ever need a summer off? Or will B teams suffice?

    Lastly, does US soccer need the money, do we care if they have it, what will they do with it? This the same organization that has lower meal allowance for the US Woman's team than the Men's.
     
  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The USWNT for about a year decided to play tough on negotiations. They went to the media and the courts to pressure the USSF with their view of facts. Some of it decidedly misleading. One was the above factoid. The truth is that the men negotiated a new deal and the women have taken their time negotiating theirs so they are stuck with the old rate. Any new deal could quite likely include a retroactive reimbursement. The courts weren't impressed. So the women have fired their old lawyers and are now negotiating like they should have from the very start.
     
  12. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    A new CBA has been in place for a couple of months now.
     
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Not surprised the Centenario made a lot of money. I do wonder if the USSF will get the exact same favorable terms of splitting the profit every time. They held all the cards this time with the added time pressure of getting the tournament off the ground after all the corruption scandals.
    I can only shake my head at this point.
     
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  14. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
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  15. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it's like a 90% victory. I think it's really doubtful a credible bid can be put together in 90 days, as it looks like it would have to come from Africa. It costs money to put a bid together too (never mind the bribes that would probably be required), and the US-MEX-CAN bid looks really formidable. My prediction is the 90 days will pass without a new bid coming out.
     
  16. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Correct, very little chance of a multi-country bid firming in three months.
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That's fine. As long as there is some semblance of due process.
     
  18. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    What is the incentive for FIFA officials for fast tracking?
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The faster they get the deal done the faster they can bring in the Money from sponsors and advertisers.

    Which seems to be even more relevant with the way Russia has been struggling along with Qatar.

    A World Cup with USA, Canada and Mexico would help rake in the cash big time.
     
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  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-to-369-million-on-mounting-costs-of-scandal

    • 24 sponsorships slots still open for WC 2018!
    • Problems securing $120m in TV broadcast money
    Probably Qatar will be worse for sponsorships and local broadcast. Who wants to but a sponsorship slot for a tournament spread around such a small country? So really tight times for FIFA.

    In contrast, a US/Mex/Can world cup has an incredible footprint. Every single game is guaranteed to be in a major metropolis. Americans love big events. Football now has a fanbase like never before and the children of today are just as likely to be a football fan as much as the local sports. The excitement will slowly ramp up a year before and then it will be World Cup 24/7. In addition, many Americans are fans of other national teams. Immigrants, of course. But many will be fans of a country for stylistic reasons or because of a player. It will be big, big, big. And worth a lot of money for sponsors and local TV of course.
     
  21. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Yeah, that makes sense.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  23. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the article has it mostly right, it'll be New York (NJ actually) or LA with Dallas as a dark horse. I can't see Houston even being in the conversation. The extra 15,0000 seats in the reconfigured Dallas Stadium makes it a bit less of a dark horse, as more seats = more money and the powers in world soccer are obviously always looking for more money.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    They would have to figure out a way to place grass in there though.
    Part of the reason Dallas was snubbed for the Centenario in my opinion.
     
  25. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the Centenario final was played at MetLife Stadium which has an artificial surface. They covered it with grass for the final, right? At least half the stadiums used in the Centenario had artificial surfaces (Gillette, the Linc, NRG Houston, Orlando, MetLife).

    It's not ideal but it seems they've gotten a lot better at it than when they first started doing it. I don't recall any issues at the Centenario. There's plenty of crappy grass field around the world too. For QC2026 I'm sure they'll do everything possible to make it a non-factor, whether that means installing it well in advance for it to stabilize or whatever. And as it's 9 years from now, they should be even better at laying grass over turf by then.
     

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