PORTUGAL VS URUGUAY 2018 FIFA World Cup Round of 16 [R]

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  1. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I don't think this team would have made the finals in the other bracket.

    Once a team invites us to break them down we just disintegrate into utter individualism. How we were playing today reminded me of the Netherlands. We would have to break down lots of teams in the 'easy' bracket right from the get-go.

    If we were going to make the finals, it would have been through this bracket. Playing against teams like France makes us play to our strengths.
     
  2. Tertuliano

    Tertuliano Member

    Jun 4, 2018
    This team was not good enough to make it through either bracket, dont kid yourself.
     
  3. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    People don't want to read a level headed opinion right now. What you said was rational and grounded in objectivity.

    Haven't you got the memo? It's the end of the world and we are fu$%ed from here on out. Hell, someone even said we should fire Santos. We should fire a guy that qualifies us directly in consecutive campaigns after what, 3 consecutive playoffs. He got us our first trophy, and now has 2 losses in 35 games, but yeah we should fire him, ffs people can be so stupid.

    Hope more people can take a breather in the next few days and realize everything is more than likely going to be okay.

    We have a young core that will continue to grow. I don't sit here and panic about the retirement of Pepe or Ronaldo, others will emerge. Sure another Ronaldo is not likely, but I'm a believer that having someone like CR7 on the team has it's negatives.
     
  4. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Yeah, they did really good in euro 96, WC 98, WC 2002. They were beating everyone......
     
  5. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    This is true. Neves would be putting holes through the net and the fans behind the net would need swat shields if he was given the space that William had.

    It was a shame Danilo couldn't be there either. The rotation system worked well in the euro.
     
  6. parkben1

    parkben1 Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    brooklyn
    Portugal went down fighting. Finally had a healthy Ronaldo but our fullbacks lost their form.
     
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  7. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Having to play Croatia and France to win euro 2016 was definetly not a walk in the park.
    Portugal had to play a Poland side that was level on points with Germany in group stage.
    Croatia was 1st in their group we all know how good they were and still are.
    Wales was first in their group too.
    France had to go through the Rep. Ireland, Iceland, Germany to get to the finals. They avoided Spain, Italy and Croatia.

    Portugal finished 3rd in their group which allowed them to qualify due to 24 teams in the tournament.

    What is lucky about all of this?
     
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  8. Chop thug

    Chop thug Red Card

    Toronto FC / Santa Clara / benfica
    Portugal
    Jun 19, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just making a point at how stupid it is , all tournament winners are lucky

    Do people forget shit on a stick
    Football Greece winning at our own expense? Portugal should have had an euro long ago

    Which is absurd when we have cancelo semedo and mario rui
     
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  9. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    So when we are losing is the time to play Bernardo in his natural position? Good job Santos.
     
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  10. leadleader

    leadleader Member+

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    To the highlighted question: Because it was underserved and/or lucky in my opinion, obviously.

    Secondly: What makes you think that I can't stand the fact that Portugal won Euro 2016?? Luis Figo probably is my favorite player ever, certainly in my top 3 players to watch of all time (when he was in his prime between 1998 and 2001). If anything, I was a bit of a Portugal bandwagon fan when Cristiano Ronaldo was very young and Luis Figo was on his way out, at Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006.

    But yes, to be honest with you, if there's something I disliked about Portugal 2016, is the fact that Portugal 2016 created a lot of good service without playing pretty football but it was competitive service nonetheless, and Ronaldo actually wasted a lot of that good service (especially in the first two group games), and then when Portugal won the final without Ronaldo on the pitch, it turned out that Portuguese fans had the GOAT to carry them to that title... I mean, I can't respect national sides nor fans who will willingly discredit an entire national side just to inflate the value of the (overrated) player at the end of Portugal's highly competitive service at Euro 2016. So if anything, I disliked the fact that Ronaldo won Euro 2016, because I knew that Ronaldo would get credited as the leader who carried an average Portugal team to victory, which was Grade A bull. And as to my so-called hangup? It isn't much of a hangup as much as it was me reminding a Portugal fan that Portugal really wasn't good neither at Euro 2016 nor at World Cup 2018, ergo, Portugal's form being supposedly good at the Euro really had absolutely no bearing on Portugal's form at World Cup 2018.

    Portugal 2016: better service, but a much less clinical Ronaldo. Portugal 2018: service not quite as quietly competitive as in 2016, but Ronaldo was a lot more clinical. In other words: basically the same overrated team, except this time CR7 didn't get glorified on the back of underrated service, that is, World Cup 2018 was nowhere near as forgiving as the new format of the Euro which included 24 teams for the first time.

    In conclusion: Portugal is a remarkable footballing nation, obviously. A footballing nation as relatively small as Portugal, that produces Luis Figo and then Cristiano Ronaldo one after the other, is nothing short of amazing... (The best winger I ever watched, and perhaps the best well-rounded goal scorer I ever saw, which is no easy feat.) But absolutely... I think that Portugal would do itself a huge favor if it went back to being an actual national team, an actual football team, an actual national side that plays for Portugal first, for Portugal second, and for Ronaldo third... instead of primarily being Cristiano Ronaldo's personal circus. And indeed, as you might be able to tell: I do honestly take some small pleasure in watching the smoke and mirrors of Ronaldo's circus collapsing against the soul and determination of an actual national team that plays for a nation first, for a nation second, and for a nation third.
     
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  11. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #711 Sumol, Jul 1, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2018
    Beating arguably the best team in the world on their precious home soil without our talisman = an anomaly indeed.

    Easiest KO stage ever?

    Yeah, because those teams were not in very good form at all, right? Wales wasn't owning Belgium or anything? Croatia wasn't owning Spain?

    The amount of salt in your post two years after the tournament itself brings joy to a very dark day for me, thank you for this.

    I'm glad that we manifest in your mind so much that you (and others) have to come in our post game thread after we've been eliminated (what a coincidence) and talk about how 'easy' we had it at the EURO among other things. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. theFOOTBALLlover

    FC Porto, SC Freamunde & Fraser Park FC
    Jan 17, 2015
    Sydney
    I think you need to relax. It is not uncommon for a team to be built around key player(s).

    Ronaldo will always be supported by people in Portugal. He has raised the profile of our nation just like Eusebio, Figo and Mourinho did/do and every Portuguese person is proud of what he has achieved. It is natural to be proud of and supportive of a successful person from your country.
     
  13. overheadkicks

    overheadkicks Member

    G.D. Chaves
    Portugal
    Feb 14, 2014
    Toronto
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    You don't have to explain yourself or try and counter our bullshit dude. Just trying to ruffle that other guys feathers. We're just taking some jabs at each-other, has nothing to do with you, or even the Italian team. Just sit back and laugh at the nonsense. This is the forum equivalent of getting your ass kicked out of a bar.
     
  14. NewLaw83

    NewLaw83 Member+

    Jun 3, 2015
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Welp, caught only the first 30 minutes of the game because I am at a friends wedding in Vermont. Had only service at the place I was staying at. So it sucks to see the end result of Portugal losing. Will watch the game when I get back home. Now its time to build for the future. Hopefully the CB issue can be addressed in the next 2 years before the next Euro.
     
  15. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #715 Sumol, Jul 1, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2018
    Sumol's Cagao of the game

    Pepe scores a goal
    Momentum is on our side
    5 minutes later
    Pepe's stupidity leads to another Cavani goal

    You can't make this S**T up.
     
  16. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Bernardo Silva being praised by all commentators after he moved to play as a #10...who could have saw that performance coming?

    Oh well.
     
  17. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My thoughts:

    Uruguay were the better team. Even though we had possession, we didn't do crap with it. Ronaldo was a no show, and so was Guedes. Bernardo's best game of the tournament.

    Their first goal, horrible defending by Rafa. And their second, wtf Pepe? Then Rui Patricio, wtf kind of positioning was that. That was an amateur defensive play.

    And our late game attacking sub was Manny Fernandes. Really?

    And Laxalt was a boss for Uruguay. He reminded me of Renato in 2016.

    But William was awesome for us again. A great tournament for him. He's a very special player.
     
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  18. trebaruna

    trebaruna Member

    Jun 13, 2017
    Los Angeles
    Yes, many players were out of they natural positions, others were plain out casting errors.
     
  19. Hulk_Hogan_Italia

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Aug 17, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    I was gutted after the result. I felt Portugal was unlucky and should have won
     
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  20. artielange84

    artielange84 Member+

    Aug 7, 2014
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Bro you're a good guy, stand up guy. Much respect to you

    Let's make this man an honorary chop
     
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  21. Hulk_Hogan_Italia

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Aug 17, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    I already am. I live at costa Verde.
     
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  22. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Haha, which location?
     
  23. Chop thug

    Chop thug Red Card

    Toronto FC / Santa Clara / benfica
    Portugal
    Jun 19, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Spain out now

    This World Cup is really strange
     
  24. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Iberians suck at a national level. They are only good a clubs. Benfica > Portugal.
    Real Madrid > Spain


    Better scout for more talent in South America for Benfica and Porto. Why develop home grown youth? Who cares about Portugal?
     
  25. overheadkicks

    overheadkicks Member

    G.D. Chaves
    Portugal
    Feb 14, 2014
    Toronto
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Thank you for that.
     

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