POLL: Open Cup trophy or Playoff win

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by OldRetiredCoach, Sep 4, 2018.

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Open Cup or playoff win in 2018

  1. 2018 Lamar Hunt Open Cup win in Houston

    40 vote(s)
    97.6%
  2. 2018 home playoff win in Talen Energy Stadium

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  1. OldRetiredCoach

    Feb 22, 2003
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our Union have never won a playoff game since inception in 2010. Also, our Union have never won a major trophy since inception in 2010. If given a choice of only 1 of these two options in 2018, what would your prefer?

    For the purpose of this poll question, I am going to specify the alternative to the Open Cup trophy as a HOME playoff win at Talen Energy Stadium.

    I look forward to an opportunity to celebrate a playoff win at a chilly TES this fall. But even though I am not able to make the trip to Houston for the Open Cup game later this month, I would like to have the Open Cup in the Trophy case.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is this even a question. You take the cup.
     
  3. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given that the Union likely will finish 5th or 6th, a "home playoff win" means that they win the first round matchup AND then the first leg of the Eastern Conference semis. That would put them in a great position to get to the Eastern Conference finals.

    I really want to win the Cup though.
     
  4. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take a trophy. This team isn't winning the league.
     
  5. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When your a fan of certain teams, you take what you can get.

    As an NCFC fan, I look to the League & FA Cup runs for my excitement.

    For the Union, I'll take the USOC over a singular post-season win.
     
  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does MLS hand out trophies for playoff wins?

    The cup every time.
     
  7. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    No, but we'd get a pretty cool ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED Tweet
     
  8. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Or allocation moneys? Takin that sweet cup win allocation moneys every time.
     
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  9. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't forget there is cash money available for winning the USOC. $300,000 to the winner and $100,000 to the runner up. That's the main reason why the Union want to win so badly.
     
  10. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this extra $300K of GAM is specifically for winning the USOC and in addition to the bonus GAM that CCL qualifying teams get, or is it just the same bonus GAM that all the CCL teams get?
     
  11. swd1974

    swd1974 Member

    Jun 23, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Guys,

    Winning the cup gets us into the Champions League. The US is the only country that doesn't see this as the top of everything. Winning the Champions league is 10x better than winning the MLS cup.

    Teams like PSG, Juve, Barca, Real Madrid put little stock in league wins. They work everyday to win their regional Champions League. Until this view changes the Open cup and the Champions League will continue to be streams on the interwebs instead of live national TV broadcasts they should be.
     
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  12. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's because their regional Champions League features teams like PSG, Juve, Barca, Real Madrid, and a host of other teams that most everyone in the world can name from memory. It's a Championship that holds a vastly higher meaning than the CCL, which features teams that Union fans see multiple times a year, surrounded by even more teams they may, or may not, have ever heard of.

    I know we all want the CCL to mean more than it does, but it's just not going to happen.
     
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  13. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m not entirely sure how I feel about the Union potentially being in Champions League.
     
  14. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why not? The Mexican teams are better, the MLS teams are similar and the teams from other countries generally are worse.
     
  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't there an additional pot of money which is dipped into for teams in the CL?
     
  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The winning team gets $300K American dollars in prize money. If the Union are fortunate enough to win the USOC, in 2019 MLS will give them extra Garber Bucks to help in their quest for CONCACAF Glory.
     
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  17. swd1974

    swd1974 Member

    Jun 23, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Oh I c
    Oh I cant disagree with you. I also think its what is holding soccer in this country back. Some of the teams in CCL like Americas and Azul and one or two of the Costa Rican teams are very good and have some top players.
     
  18. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
     
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  19. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can’t see the FO doing a good enough job to make sure the team is ready for that type of tournament. They’ll end up spending the extra money in places we don’t need and we’ll look god awful.
     
  20. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m relieved the poll is 100% in favor of the cup
     
  21. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sadly it would most likely be the exact opposite if this poll was on Twitter/Facebook.
     
  22. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Cup, all day long...
     
  23. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    excited to be one of 20 fans in attendance when the Union host Joe Public in CCL action
     
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  24. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe we can get a good bit of thunder/lighting and a parking lot dust storm to spice things up.
     
  25. OldRetiredCoach

    Feb 22, 2003
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it doesn't seem like there was much of a debate. When was the last time that the Big Soccer Union fan base was unanimous on anything?

    While I "Covet the Cup" (tm), I actually would prefer to take a pass on the CCL. The additional games could really take a toll on our depth. I look at Toronto this year and think what it would mean to the Union.
     

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