Poll about the u.s. flag REDUX. What does it symbolize to you?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by It's called FOOTBALL, Aug 17, 2018.

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What does the u.s. flag symbolize to you?

  1. Freedom, liberty and justice for all

    7 vote(s)
    58.3%

  2. Imperialism

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%

  3. White Supremacy

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. The white man's illegal invasion of America

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Nothing. It's not a positive thing nor a negative thing.

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%

  6. Subservience to Israel

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. White culture, but not in a negative way

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  8. Donald Trump and his supporters

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL Member+

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    #1 It's called FOOTBALL, Aug 17, 2018
    Hello all. A few years ago, I made this thread to gauge opinions only for it to be deleted because the mod thought I was looking to offend people. Who he thought I was offending, I have no idea, he didn't say. I'm thinking the problem was the ordering of options on the poll, so this time I'll put "freedom" as the first option. I hate giving in to authority, but oh well, authority always wins, even if they're wrong sometimes.

    The mod actually called some of the options "alternative viewpoints", which is kinda a weird thing to say because millions shared the viewpoints listed on the poll. So let's give this another go.

    The original poll was posted before the Kaepernick protests, and what we've learned since then is that many whites actually did not know what millions of People Of Color felt about certain symbols. It's disappointing to know that it takes high profile happenings such as that and the whole Trump fiasco to get some whites to learn that their worldview is far from the only one out there. Very far.

    Cascarino's also said I should be sent to the moon for the original poll, lol, maybe he'll explain why he said that this time around.

    Here's an interesting tidbit about the Rick Monday incident:

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/baseball/on-this-date-in-sports-april-25-1976/

    So it was actually for a good cause, but the media deified Monday for stopping the protesters. Not cool.
     
  2. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    #2 marek, Aug 17, 2018
    my top choice was not on the list... maybe it could be added?

    2-0

    thank you
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Cascarino's Pizzeria Member+

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    #3 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Aug 17, 2018
    There's no militarism on the list. Nor domestic violence.

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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Cascarino's Pizzeria Member+

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    #4 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Aug 17, 2018
    That'd be Dos a Cero and it would win in a landslide.
     
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  5. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    #5 diablodelsol, Aug 17, 2018
    By the end of this thread:

    You and 475 othe people have repped this post
     
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  6. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    #6 usscouse, Aug 17, 2018
    Headscarves, undershorts, curtains, pick up truck decorations. Something on a stand you can dry hump like Trump.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #7 superdave, Aug 17, 2018
    1. Rare marek sighting.
    2. I'm pissed he beat me to the obvious response.

    The Mexican flag means ardido.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #8 superdave, Aug 17, 2018
    We should find the relevant thread in the USA section of BS and put a link for here.

    I have no idea how to find out what the most repped post in BS history is, but it's got a competitor now.
     
  9. EyesOnBall

    EyesOnBall Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    #9 EyesOnBall, Aug 17, 2018
    Well this should be a two part question: !) What does the US Flag symbolize prior to Nov. 2016? 2) What does the US Flag symbolize today?

    prior to 2016:
    Freedom, liberty and justice for all

    today: tRUMP and his supporters
     
  10. American Brummie

    American Brummie Member+

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #10 American Brummie, Aug 17, 2018
    Nope, still Dos a Cero
     
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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #11 ceezmad, Aug 17, 2018
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  12. American Brummie

    American Brummie Member+

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #12 American Brummie, Aug 17, 2018
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  13. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    #13 JohnR, Aug 17, 2018
    White right-wing dickheads.
     
  14. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    #14 crazypete13, Aug 17, 2018
    Not getting involved.
     
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  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #15 ceezmad, Aug 17, 2018
    Not even for an option of 13 original colonies and 50 States?
     
  16. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    #16 crazypete13, Aug 17, 2018
  17. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #17 soccernutter, Aug 17, 2018
    This is a matter of life and death.
     
  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    #18 Auriaprottu, Aug 17, 2018
    T&T. No, thank YOU.

    ???
    You bitches didn't even get on the plane TO Russia, and yet you're trying to rag on Mexico? FOH
     
  19. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    #19 Auriaprottu, Aug 17, 2018
    The two of you are better than this.
     
  20. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    #20 crazypete13, Aug 17, 2018
    I've got my popcorn, and I'm cheering for injuries and red cards.
     
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  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    #21 song219, Aug 17, 2018
    That someone is about to sing a mediocre song that should not be the national anthem.
     
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  22. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #22 ToMhIlL, Aug 17, 2018
    It's just a friggin piece of cloth! Nowhere else in the world do people make such a big deal over their flag. Well, maybe in totalitarian states and the country that used to be known as Yugoslavia. Pretty much every single building open to the public had either a Yugo flag or a portrait of Tito or both. Must have been an effort to force national unity, but we found out a few years later how well that worked...
     
  23. American Brummie

    American Brummie Member+

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #23 American Brummie, Aug 17, 2018
    It's our monarch.
     
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  24. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #24 Dr. Wankler, Aug 17, 2018
    The poll should permit multiple choices. If it's a symbol, that means it depends on its context for its meaning. It meant one thing when hipsters and POC united to sing songs and wave the thing after Obama got elected, and Something else when someone is waving it and yelling "get out of my country" at someone he thinks might be an immigrant. So there's the first one AND white supremecy. Fly it from an aircraft carrier, there's imperialism.
     
  25. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    #25 JohnR, Aug 17, 2018
    Mostly, now, it means people who don't like the United States. When displayed on a car or in front of home. Don't like blacks, Hispanics (born here or not), Muslims, immigrants of most or all flavors, LBGT, and liberals of all stripes. The flag symbolizes their dislike of the people with which they share the country.
     
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