Plymouth Argyle - Home Park Heros

Discussion in 'League Championship' started by JacksonJazz#9, Jul 25, 2007.

  1. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    Isn't Sturrock still calling the shots..?? something fishy going on here....word is that Arglye paid upwards of 100,000 quid to get Cooper on loan and then don't play him...??

    Whats to lose..?? Arglye obviously can't win with the stiffs currently paying up front, why not give Cooper a run of games...?? whats the worst that could happen...?? they stay in the relegation zone..??
     
  2. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    66... thought you said he wasnt healthy?? youre right though... why pay a transfer fee, if the player is just gonna sit on the bench... Mariner knows Copper from the MLS days, so its not like he is an unknown quantity... maybe he reinjured himself?
     
  3. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1-1 tie again... ties arnt going to save us...

    Cooper DNP
     
  4. ArgyleEd

    ArgyleEd Member

    Jul 20, 2009
    London
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    7 points off safety and only 1 off bottom. Our chances of staying up are so slim it's barely worth thinking about. We need wins and we need them now, survival will take play-off form from now til the end of the season. The next two games are Bristol at home and Scunthorpe away, if we don't get 6 points from them then there's no hope, they're both winnable if we start positively, Noone and Bolasie from the start and Mariner must make more than 2 changes if we are not winning.
     
  5. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    and Cooper did not play again. There will be changes again on tuesday, Eckersley went off injured and Sawyer who came on to replace him also got injured, we better get the loanee signed or the Zambabian signed
     
  6. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the Argyle website.. this is the first time ive read that relegation is a possiblity, Mariner vowing to fight til the end, even though games are running out.

    they see it, we see it.... ugh... me thinks the Mayflower is sinking
     
  7. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didnt even know we had a game yesterday... .3-2 WIN for us.... we finally get a bit of luck and get a injury time goal to win it5 points from safety still, but we scored 3 goals... that helps... will be interesting to see how we play saturday.. if we can build on this... only 1 loss in 4 games as of late... thats a good run for us...
     
  8. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    Quite the game on tuesday, to bad JJ you are not a AW member as you could see the videos of the game, aso gives you access to all the other teams videos and Bristol had over 13 minutes of highlights.

    News
    Kenny Cooper played for the reserves yesterday played the whole 90 minutes did not score, most of the players were youth team and some schoolboys so not sure what he was expected to accomplish at least it was giving him some playing time, he still has not scored for Argyle.

    We have a new loanee Bondz N;Gala he is a full back from West Ham.
    Also we might have a new player by saturday Onismor Bhasera, he is from Zimbabwe, well he is already signed for Argyle until 2012 but he had to get a work permit, once he got that he had to get a english exam permit which he got but then he had to get international clearance and a exit stamp from Zimbabwe and his previous club in South Africa. This guy is suppose to be good he had previously been training with Portsmouth and they did get him a work permit but because they are in administration they were not allowed to sign him, he has been training with Argyle now for about a month. He is currently back in Zimbabwe getting the stamp and if he gets back in time he might make the bench at least on saturday.
    Argyle have also has 3 trainees this week, one is Rory Patterson the leading scorer in the Irish league and a N. Ireland international, no idea who the other 2 are. If Argyle were to sign any of these it would be for next season
     
  9. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    have to wonder what is up with Kenny Cooper... if his injury is really taking a long time to get better... you have an US international player playing against school boys in a reserve game...

    Since he did play all 90 min, maybe they are just trying to get him into condition.

    the other loanee players, espicially the leading scorer in the irish league, means he has to be able to put the ball in the net.
     
  10. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we lose, 6 points from safety... this is one we really needed, but who's kidding who... we need all points... and to drop 3 points to a team directly above us is a 6 point swing.

    No Kenny Cooper in the line up...
     
  11. ArgyleEd

    ArgyleEd Member

    Jul 20, 2009
    London
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's over, with the teams we still have to play and the gap the size it is I can't see us getting out of this. League One next season, we have to hope the board have plans to deal with the drop in revenue, it'll take a few seasons to rebuild, I hope we can last that long without going into administration.
     
  12. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow Ed... that really puts it into perspective... if we are only getting 5000 to games, we wont be able to support the wages, we will have to sell off our decent players... and to think, 2 years ago with Holloway, we were battling for a playoff position. everyone hated him for leaving like he did... maybe he saw the writing on the wall...

    Ed, i think youre right... we are not an up and coming team anymore... we are team on the way down... no money, dwindling fan support, 2nd rate or unfinished stadium... what we do have is a manager that has a personal interest in the team... Paul Mariner will take us down, but he will bring us back up... hopefully
     
  13. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Remaining Fixtures
    bold = home games

    23/03 - Ipswich (15th)
    27/03 - Blackpool (9th)
    30/03 - Barnsley (12th)
    03/04 - Doncaster (8th)
    05/04 - Middlesbrough (10th)
    10/04 - Watford (19th)
    19/04 - Newcastle (1st)
    24/04 - Nottm Forrest (3rd)
    02/05 - Peterborough (24th)

    Looking at that, five home games. But Plymouth have the worst home record in the Division. To be honest I thought Plymouth were relegated months ago.

    If Plymouth do get relegated they'll probably average about 10,000 in attendence. And if they are doing well, then 12,500 like the last time they were in the division.
     
  14. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    of those last 3 games.. only the last is winable... and we will be relegated by then..

    Pigs.. thanks for stopping by the Argyle board.
     
  15. ArgyleEd

    ArgyleEd Member

    Jul 20, 2009
    London
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    To stay up we would probably have to win at the very least least the games against Ipswich, Blackpool, Barnsley, Watford and Peterborough and hope clubs above us struggle, it's possible to beat all those teams but it's so unlikely I've not got any hope left. That would be a huge turnaround in form, promotion form and this team isn't capable of that, there's no confidence, no belief. We're not the worst team in the Championship, I don't think we're in the bottom three sides but we just can't score, that's what will send us down.

    We're only just averaging 10,000 now, I think that'll drop to around 7 or 8 thousand next season, the whole fanbase is just so depressed now, we've turned from a team on the up and looking likely to make it to the Premeir League to a financially struggling team on it's way back to the third tier. Along with that the quality of the football is so bad it's put many people off, with prices so high (as it is for all clubs) and the recession affecting many people I believe this relegation will cost us thousands of fans who've just had enough. It will set us back years. Going from being in such a positive position to this in just a couple of seasons is unbearably depressing.
     
  16. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    full 3 points today, along with a Crystal Palace loss, we are only 3 points from safety
     
  17. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    Ipswich 0 Argyle 2
    Bradley Wright Phillips and Mason scorers
    Argyle 2 points behinf Crystal Palace, and 3 behind Sheff wed.
    I do a thing on Pasoti called Elimination Table http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=40621&start=30
    technically Argyle can still finish 4th in the league and be in the playoffs. Ha Ha

    Another injury today with Barker getting a hammy, Argyle were already missing Arnason and Eckersley from saturdays game, and Bondz N'gala played his first game for Argyle after coming on loan from West Ham. Hopefully Zambian international Bhasera will have returned with his international clearance in time for saturdays game agianst Blackpool.
     
  18. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    another win, and we are in the battle for survival... last week, i thought we were done... but 3 more points this weekend, and some losses around us and it will get very interesting!!!

    Kenny Cooper did not play again on tuesday... at least he dressed
     
  19. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    2 players out, Barnes gone to Brighton, Sawyer to Bristol City, both on loan.
    Sawyer will not be back at Argyle, he has already turned down a contract for next season.
     
  20. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OG... does any of that matter? seems like we had a lot of guys on the roster/payroll anyway
     
  21. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    Barnes no, he is a 20 yesr old who is not in the top 5/6 forwards so going out to a mid table Div 1 team will do him good.

    Sawyer is a different he has started 31 games this season, and in total appeared in 106 games for Argyle and scored 5 goals, he is a product of the Argyle youth setup.
    He is a defencemen and usually plays left back, but has fallen down the pecking list behind Barker and Eckersley at that position, the strange thing is Barker and Eckersley are now both injured, so we now have NO left back for saturday.
    Chris Clark filled in for Barker after he got injured on tuesday and will probably be there on saturday unless Argyle take a risk on Bhasera if he gets back from S. Africa with his work permit, which is not expected.
    It is also strange that Argyle loaned him out toanother championship team.
     
  22. ArgyleEd

    ArgyleEd Member

    Jul 20, 2009
    London
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm leaving for Home Park in around an hour, first home game since Newcastle in the cup for me so I'm looking forward to it. If we perform as well as we can and our strikers have a good day then I can see us winning this which would be a huge boost to our survival chances, a draw would't be great and losing would be devastating. To stay up we will have to be very good at home and although Blackpool are a good side we have to be looking to get a result.
     
  23. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lets hope we give Ollie and his side an unpleasant return to Home Park... 3 points and we are back in the hunt.... and we need some help from the people around us to lose
     
  24. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2-0 loss for us.... the dream bursts as we give up 2 late goals... we needed to win at home... ugh.... we are going down, but how quickly can we bounce back up?

    Ed... what was the reception Ollie got at Home Park?
     
  25. Ottawa Green

    Ottawa Green Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    Ottawa
    Match report http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10364~48821,00.html

    Listening to the game on the radio, and we lost this game in the 5th minute, when we lost captain Carl Fletcher, to a vicious tackle which earned Keith Southern a yellow card. Argyle had already lost Eckersley and Barker to injuries in the previous game, and we let Sawyer go out on loan.
    Summerfield came on to replace Fletcher. Argyle had a number of chances in the first half and could/should have been up 2/3-0 but 0-0 at HT.
    In the second half Blackpool started to push Argyle back and when substirute Summerfield pulled a hamstring it meant the only defensive sub we had was 17 year old Ryan Leonard who made his first team debut. From there Blackpool exploited Argyle's inexperience and scored 2 goals in 4 mins.
    It's another nail in the coffin, with only 7 games left we are 6 points behind the safety line.
    Next game tuesday against Barnsley, Fletcher has already been ruled out, I expect Summerfield will be out as well.
    It does not look good.
     

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