Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!?

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by GHjelm, Jul 9, 2019.

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Will the Fire make the playoffs?

Poll closed Sep 17, 2019.
  1. Yes

    3.1%
  2. Yes, if Pauno is fired

    21.9%
  3. No

    59.4%
  4. Malort Raccoons making something stupid happen with rubber dicks

    53.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    We dropped 11 points this season from losing a lead with Pauno's shit turtle ball tactics. Those 11 points would have us in a battle for the 1 seed.

    #PAUNOOUT
     
  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We still play both of those shitty Ohio teams, but this time away. If we only get 1 point out of those games, then that WILL definitely end our season.
     
  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and Yet he's still our coach.

    #NRodOut
     
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  4. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    or if we had an owner that cared about his team, then BOTH of those assholes would be gone.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    How is that possible? Even with those 11 points, the Fire would still well behind Atlanta and Philadelphia.

    The Fire are 15 and 12 points behind those two teams, each of which has a game in hand over the Fire.

    Our PPG even with those magical 11 points would be just 1.57 ppg, barely good enough for fourth place in the East (currently the Red Bulls at 1.52) and nowhere close to the 1.78 and 1.76 ppg for Atlanta and NYCFC (who have 11 more points than than the Fire and a whopping 3 games in hand).

    The only way your assertion would have any sense of reality is if we dropped those points against the teams with whom we would "battle for the 1 seed," as that would lower the other team's point total (and ppg) accordingly. However, this is simply not the case.

    We have played Atlanta twice: a 2-0 loss and a 5-1 win (didn't drop points from losing a lead).

    We have played Philadelphia twice: a 2-0 loss and a 2-0 win (didn't drop points from losing a lead).

    We have played NYCFC twice, a 1-0 loss and 1-1 draw We did drop 2 points by losing a lead on May 25, 2019, so that would marginally affect both teams.

    That would, however, only decrease NYCFC's ppg from 1.76 to 1.72 ppg and increase ours to 1.25 (35 pts from 28 games, up from 33 in 28 games), not nearly enough to make a statistical difference.

    Once again, your assertions simply do not make sense.
    If I am wrong, please enlighten me.
     
  6. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    At the time of the post, Atlanta had not beaten Orlando so the Fire would have been 1 point behind the 1 seed. We would have had 2 and 1 more game played than the teams above us, but the remainder of our schedule is favorable.
     
  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So, we would still be behind but they would have 2 games in hand.
    Oh, that makes so, so much more sense.

    Considering that PRIOR to the game, Atlanta was on 1.73 ppg and our "best" possible would be 1.57 we would still be significantly behind them. Atlanta's win only moved them up by .005.

    Again, "in a battle for the 1 seed" rings more than a bit hollow.
     
  8. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Battle doesn't mean being there. We'd definitely be keeping our eyes on it though.
     
  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "keeping our eyes on" doesn't mean "battle."
     
  10. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  11. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Current chances listed at 11%, which is much more in line with reality. Same thing holds true after that loss: 4 more wins and we're probably in.

    Fire play

    @Columbus
    Dallas
    @cincy
    Toronto
    @Orlando

    That's actually the easiest remaining schedule in the league with no games against teams on the top half.

    The three road games are why we miss the playoffs. I think the Fire go 3-1-1, and miss by 1-2 points.
     
  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I agree that is an easy schedule.
    Of course, every team playing the Chicago Fire probably thinks "that's an easy game."
    It is fortunate that the two most difficult games (on paper) are at home, but we would have to pick up at least two road wins and, well, we have one all season!
     
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  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We need to win out to have a greater than 50% chance.
    We have been under 50% to make the playoffs since mid-June.

    On the other hand, if we gain one more point (against Cincinnati) we are "officially" out of the running for the wooden spoon, although if Cincinnati win out and tie the Fire and Fire lose every game and tie Cincinnati, the teams would be co-"winners" of the Wooden Spoon.

    If the Wooden Spoon "tie-breaker" comes down to head to head, we lose that one!
    (Since we embarrassingly lost at home to them in July)
     
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  15. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Playoffs baby!
     
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  19. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  20. The Fire will miss the playoffs by a couple of points.

    They dropped too many points where they shouldn't have.

    That last minute loss to NE really hurt.
    Had Calvo not ********ed up on that play the fire would be tied on points for 7th with NE. (8th due to tie-braker.)
     
  21. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is on Pauno. This asshole should have been FIRE along ago, hell not brought back for the 2019 season.
     
  22. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    losing at home to Cincinnati was just brutal
     
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  23. Yeah, earlier they dropped points agains Vancouver and Orlando at home. (also CLB after CIN)

    Fire's playoff chances rest heavily on what NE does this weekend at home vs Salt Lake.

    NE's remaining 3 games are
    @POR, NYC, @ATL

    The Fire's chances at the playoffs (given that they win at least 2 games) are not as dismal as I thought.

    If NE wins against RSL, the fire could still make it, but NE would need to get at most 3pts from last 3 games and the Fire would need to win out. Tough.

    If NE ties RSL, they would need to get 5pts from last 3 (though) if the Fire win out. If the Fire only win 2 games, then NE would could get upto 2pts from final 3 and the Fire would probably still get through on GD. Possible.

    If NE loses to RSL, they would need >6pts if the Fire win out. Or A >3 points if the fire win only 2 games. Not bad.


    That being said, I think the fire could win each remaining game individually, but I'm not seeing a 4 game winning streak to end the season.

    They'll drop points at home vs TOR or at ORL if not both.
     

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