Players Abroad 2014-15 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Mengão86, Jul 18, 2014.

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  1. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Talisca scored on his debut for Benfica vs Estoril...
     
  2. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    He will be in the Premier League in no time.
     
  3. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    EPL?

    That's the most praise I've seen you give a player :p
     
  4. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    Yes, but I don't meant that as a praise but he is very good and players from Portugal's league move easily to England.
     
  5. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    As long as they are being utilized correctly (see Anderson at Man United). Next thing we know, Talisca will be played as a volante and will struggle to adapt.. :rolleyes:
     
  6. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    Yes, that's a big problem, better go to Italy or Spain, or even Germany.
     
  7. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Thought you said there was "no talent" just yesterday...
     
  8. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    Playing in the Premier League doesn't mean Brazil has plenty of talent, tons of average (by international standards) players play there and with or without Anderson Talisca, Brazil will still be lacking talented players.

    But players often move from Portugal to England, and given Benfica's connections, I think there is a very good chance Anderson Talisca ends up there too.
     
  9. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The EPL holds no weight in anything I said, Talisca's the truth idc where he plays. There was plenty of talent at the Toulon tourney (compared to the other countries) and I would have made 5 or 6 amendments to that roster. It's sad I'm the optimistic one on this forum now and days.
     
  10. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    Yes, the Toulon team was good (notice other teams fielded U19 teams though) but one thing is how they did there, another thing is how they will do in the next years, maybe I am pessimistic but I think many will derail one way or another.

    Hopefully much of the Toulon team will be used in the Olympics too so their transition from youth NTs to senior can be better done.
     
  11. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yea i'm cautiously optimistic since I don't hold as much weight as most do in youth tourneys. I just have been liking what I've seen from these kids battling and getting consistent game action week to week in the Brasileirao.
     
  12. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    I agree with the part I marked in bold, prior to the transfer, Anderson Talisca was arguably the best young player in the league, there are Lucas Silva and Gabigol too.

    But I always have doubt if any promising players will be enough to succeed at the national team in long term, especially as they move to other leagues and not always adapt, or managers there decide to use them in some silly way, etc...

    I have also lost faith in youth development here, while there is no doubt there are still promising players, I don't think Brazil is anywhere near as dominant at youth development as Brazil used to be. There are too many problems at youth level here like focus on winning rather than developing the 'fundamentos', too many players exported too early (like Anderson Talisca although he thankfully went to Portugal instead of leagues less focused on development), while other countries seem to be catching up.
     
  13. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    By the way, Thiago Neves scored this goal a couple of days ago:

     
  14. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    damn...
     
  15. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Seis jogadores do Shakhtar Donetsk estão desaparecidos e se recusaram a viajar com a delegação do clube de volta para a Ucrânia após o amistoso contra o Lyon neste sábado.
    Entre eles estão os brasileiros Alex Teixeira, Douglas Costa, Fred, Dentinho e o argentino Facundo Ferreyra Os quatro brasileiros tem o mesmo empresário, que alega falta de segurança para pisar em solo ucraniano.
    O argentino Blanco, do Metalist, também recusou voltar ao país após o 2-2 com o Dynamo Moscow.
     
  16. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    The other Brazilian is Ismaily. They are supposed to be back soon though.
     
  17. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Any mention of Bernard?
     
  18. PMLF

    PMLF Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Rio de Janeiro, Bra
    Bernard is on vacations as he played the World Cup, so he isn't with the rest of the squad.

    According to the Ukrainians, he is expected to leave Shakhtar this window, but nothing certain about his destination.
     
  19. Pandore

    Pandore Member+

    Jun 24, 2014
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Marquinhos scored today from a corner against Nice (friendly match).
     
  20. Dage

    Dage Member+

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lucas to Eintracht Frankfurt. Thomas Schaaf is a very good Coach for young players in the past like Özil, Ismael, Naldo and the special Ailton ;)
     
  21. astinus4

    astinus4 Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Lucas Piazon that is..... ;-)
     
  22. Dage

    Dage Member+

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Isn't that the Lucas you are usually talking about?
     
  23. astinus4

    astinus4 Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not at all...I think most people here would assume Lucas Moura. There's Lucas Leiva too.
     
    Dage repped this.
  24. Dage

    Dage Member+

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ahh thx
     
  25. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Talisca is looking really good. Probably premature for him as Coutinho and Firmino are more deserving, but still.
     

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