Player Profile: Jose Manuel 'Charro' Moreno

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  1. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EN LOS 40 era RIVER

    Admirados, aplaudidos, poéticos, inmortalizados, ovacionados... Así quedaron cada uno de los integrantes de "La Máquina" de River, especialmente el quinteto ofensivo (Muñoz, José Manuel Moreno, Adolfo Pedernera, Angel Amadeo Labruna y Félix Loustau) para la historia del Fútbol Argentino.

    El implacable grupo, que se gestó en 1941, era dirigido por el inteligente Renato "Tano" Cesarini. Tres años antes, en 1938, se inauguraba el Monumental. Un perfecto escenario que emergió como un presagio de las grandes obras que los actores tiempo más tarde fueron capaces de protagonizar.

    "La Máquina" logró los títulos de 1941, 1942, 1945 y 1947. El apodo se lo puso el periodista Alberto Lorenzo Borocotó (padre), de El Gráfico, que después de la goleada ante Chacarita por 6-2, en 1941, escribió: "Como una máquina jugó el puntero".

    En 1935 debutaron en la Primera el "Charro" Moreno, Deambrosi y Pedernera; en 1939 lo haría Labruna. Y en ese mismo año se incorporaba Muñoz, proveniente de Dock Sud.

    La "Máquina", un perfecto engranaje de coordinación, despliegue, clase y magia. Esa que aportaba por sobre todos el inolvidable Angel Amadeo Labruna. "Angelito" para la familia riverplatense. El segundo máximo goleador del Fútbol Argentino con 292 goles, tan solo superado por el paraguayo Arsenio Erico (Independiente), con 293.

    Otra de las cualidades que tenían era la serenidad. Esto se apreciaba cuando el equipo estaba en desventaja. Tocaban, tocaban y tardaban en concretar. Muchas veces terminaban ganando sobre el final y por un gol de diferencia. Por eso también se los bautizó con el mote de "Los Caballeros de la Angustia".

    "Para mantener esa serenidad un equipo debe tener un buen basamento, La Máquina fue lo que fue, porque detrás de esos grandes delanteros había jugadores de gran jerarquía en el mediocampo y en defensa. "La Máquina" era todo el equipo", afirmaba Adolfo Pedernera.

    En el campeonato obtenido en 1941, el primero, River se dio el gusto de golear 5-1 a Boca. Después vencería a Estudiantes en la última fecha y se quedaría con la gloria. Dicen que ese torneo fue el más espectacular que se veía hasta ese momento.

    El equipo completo estaba integrado por: Barrios; Yácono, Rodolfi; Ramos, Vaghi, Ferreyra; Muñoz, Moreno, Pedernera, Labruna y Deambrosi -luego Félix Loustau, "El Chaplín"-.

    Al año siguiente, en 1942, Loustau (reemplazó a Deambrosi) se sumó al plantel y llegó el bicampeonato. "La Máquina" dio la vuelta olímpica en la mismísima Bombonera al empatar en la última fecha 2-2, luego de estar 0-2 abajo. Pedernera marcó los dos tantos y el equipo terminó con diez porque un proyectil lanzado desde la tribuna impactó sobre Yácono y lo obligó a retirarse de la cancha.

    Luego con el grupo un poco desmembrado, en 1945 River volvió a coronarse campeón. Moreno, el goleador y la figura en el título de 1941, ya no estaba porque se había ido a México. Pero era el año del debut de Amadeo Carrizo, Pipo Rossi y Alfredo Di Stéfano, que venía de Huracán.

    En 1947, un ciclo dorado llegaba a su fin. Diez de los once titulares, salvo Reyes, todos eran productos de las inferiores del club. La "Saeta Rubia" fue el goleador del conjunto con 25 gritos. Y otra vez se codeada con el triunfo dejando a sus primos de Boca como subcampeones a seis puntos.

    Si bien no era un equipo tan sutil, lírico y brillante, se caracterizaba por su profundidad, efectividad y rapidez. En la delantera estaban Reyes, Moreno, Di Stéfano, Labruna y Loustau.

    Así culminaba uno de los ciclos más gloriosos de la historia, no sólo de River sino del Fútbol Argentino. Lástima que uno no vivió esa época para poder admirarlos detrás del alambrado y se tuvo que conformar con leer y ver algunas imágenes de los años 40 poco nítidas. ¡Qué lástima, che!
     
  2. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: EN LOS 40 era RIVER

    Estoy de acuerdo. Que equipazo! Y lastima que en Europa habia guerra, y que estos jugadores nunca pudieron medirse con los mejores del exterior, porque estoy seguro que hubieramos dominado como el Brazil de Pele.
     
  3. GolazoSr

    GolazoSr New Member

    Jul 5, 2002
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Re: EN LOS 40 era RIVER

    "La Maquina" jugaba futbol de champagne. Siendo un chiquillo, yo pude ver a Labruna con River en una gira por Centro America en 1950 o 51. Que magia tenia Labruna en los pies! A pesar de mi corta edad (7 anos) Labruna me dejo impresionado para el resto de mi vida.
     
  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno

    JOSÈ MANUEL MORENO


    Born: 3 August 1916 in Buenos Aires.

    Died: 26 August 1978 in Buenos Aires.

    Nickname: Charro.

    Position: Inside forward.

    Caps:
    Argentina 34 (1936-1950) / 19 goals

    League Games:
    Argentina 357 (1935-1944, 1946-1948, 1950 & 1953) / 187 goals
    Mexico 41 (1944-1946) / 11 goals
    Chile 34 (1949 & 1951) / 10 goals
    Uruguay 14 (1952) / 3 goals
    Colombia 33 (1954-1957 & 1960-1961) / 13 goals

    International Club Cup Games:
    None

    South American Footballer of the Year: poll not held yet

    Trophies & Tournaments:
    World Cup: -
    South American Championship: 1941, 1947
    South American Championship beaten finalist: 1942
    Argentine Champion: 1936, 1937, 1941, 1942, 1947
    Argentine runner-up: 1938, 1939, 1943, 1944, 1948, 1950
    Chilean Champion: 1949
    Chilean runner-up: -
    Colombian Champion: 1955
    Colombian runner-up: 1961
    Mexican Champion: 1945
    Mexican runner-up: -
    Uruguayan Champion: -
    Uruguayan runner-up: -
    Top League Goal Scorer: never

    Season - Club - Games – Goals

    1935........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................20 / 06
    1936........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................33 / 24
    1937........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................31 / 32
    1938........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................31 / 24
    1939........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................24 / 20
    1940........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................33 / 16
    1941........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................28 / 14
    1942........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................28 / 10
    1943........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................22 / 06
    1944........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................06 / 04
    1944/45.... Real Club Espana Ciudad de Mexico...21 / 07
    1945/46.... Real Club Espana Ciudad de Mexico...20 / 04
    1946........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................13 / 08
    1947........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................28 / 10
    1948........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................23 / 06
    1949........ River Plate Buenos Aires..................22 / 08
    1950........ Boca Juniors Buenos Aires................22 / 06
    1951........ Universidad Catolica Santiago...........12 / 02
    1952........ Defensor Montevideo......................14 / 03
    1953........ Club Ferro Carril Oeste Buenos Aires.15 / 01
    1954........ Indepediente Medellín ....................12 / 03
    1955........ Indepediente Medellín ....................13 / 03
    1956........ Indepediente Medellín ....................15 / 06
    1957-1959 did not play
    1960........ Indepediente Medellín ....................02 / 00
    1961........ Indepediente Medellín ....................01 / 01
     
  5. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno

    most and well remembered player in medellin colombia!

    if you need more info about him, while in colombia, let me know....

    ELCHARRO!
     
  6. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno

    Yeah, we've been talking about him in the Beautiful Game forum.

    Whatever info you have about him would be welcome. I heard a story about one time after he was supposedly retired already, he was coaching for a Colombian team against Boca they were losing and after halftime he changed his clothes, put himself in the game, and scored the winning goals. I'm not sure how real that story is, or the details. Have you heard anything about it?
     
  7. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Re: Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno

    He was coaching Indepediente Medellín from March 1960 to August 1962, be he still played in three games in 1960 and 1961 as a players coach, in official Colombian league games. The last time he played was at the age of 44 on 14 May 1961. He scored a goal in that match, but I don't know the end result or the opponent - but it would have been a Colombian team anyway. After that a farewell game was staged, the opponent being Boca Juniors. Boca won 5-2, with Moreno scoring both goals for Medellín.
     
  8. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    the stry: arrival to coolmbia -part 1

    nacio en el barrio de la Boca: 8/3/16
    idolos de su infancia: roberto Cherro y Domingo Tarasconi, delmismo barrio

    primer juego de su vida: debuto con la quinta division de boca y METIO 2 goles (estaba a prueba solamente), sin embargo su entrenador no lo tomo en cuenta y lo regreso a casa. Contesto "se van a arrepentir, ya van a ver"

    Dias despues su padre le consigio trabajo en la revista el grafico, para doblar papel, en esos dias jugando en campo callejero, TITO SANCHEZ, EN LA CALLE BRADSEN LO VIO JUGAR Y SE LO LLEVO A probar suerte con River Plate, gusto y se quedo...... Para debutar como profesional en 1935 y nada menos que contra botafogo en Brazil: river gano 2-1, el siguiente dia vs Vasco de gama, antes del partido le dijo a sus companeros " tranquilos muchachos, que a estos les hacemos cinco. Mira lo que es el que me tiene que marcar, es muy feo el negro, lo voy a bailar" La profesia se cumplio river gano 5-1 con un GOLAZO suyo.....ademas descubrio que le gustaba bailar.....



    del libro de memorias de los grandes del DIM
    I will do part 2 - tomorrow
     
  9. egerbek

    egerbek New Member

    Jun 6, 2005
    Re: Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno

    Hello

    My name is Esteban Bekerman. I am a 33 year old soccer jornalist and statistic of Argentina, with a very long trayectory in sport media and teaching as the only professor of Argentine Soccer History in the first and most important school of sport journalism of Latin America: the one of the Círculo de Periodistas Deportivos of Buenos Aires. Right now, I am working at the first soccer history and statistics magazine of Latin América: "Fútbol, Historia y Estadísticas", of Editorial Perfil, in wich we have published lots of photos and histories of Moreno. For example, we are publishing in several chapters "The Story of 'La Máquina'", a book written by Pablo Ramírez (the director of the magazine, who saw Moreno very often in his youth and is an admiror of him) about the great line of attack of River Plate from 1941 to 1946 in what Moreno was a very important piece.
    Please check the table of "Season - Club - Games – Goals", because it doesn't match with the data written above. I have lots of material about Moreno's life, specially concerning his career in Argentina and Chile. I would share it by e-mail with anyone who sends me info about anything Moreno did in México, Colombia and Uruguay. By now, I can tell you that Moreno is the best player of all times of argentinian soccer according to lots of people, and almost for everyone who has 60 years or more here in Buenos Aires. You can write me to ebekerman@hotmail.com. Best regards :)

    Esteban
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    JOSÉ MANUEL MORENO


    Born: 3 August 1916 in Buenos Aires.

    Died: 26 August 1978 in Buenos Aires.

    Nickname: Charro.

    Position: Inside forward.

    Caps:
    Argentina 34 (1936-1950) / 19 goals

    League Games:
    Argentina 357 (1935-1944, 1946-1948, 1950 & 1953) / 187 goals
    Mexico 41 (1944-1946) / 11 goals
    Chile 34 (1949 & 1951) / 10 goals
    Uruguay 14 (1952) / 3 goals
    Colombia 33 (1954-1957 & 1960-1961) / 13 goals

    International Club Cup Games:
    None

    South American Footballer of the Year: poll not held yet

    Trophies & Tournaments:
    World Cup: -
    South American Championship: 1941, 1947
    South American Championship beaten finalist: 1942
    Argentine Champion: 1936, 1937, 1941, 1942, 1947
    Argentine runner-up: 1938, 1939, 1943, 1944, 1948, 1950
    Chilean Champion: 1949
    Chilean runner-up: -
    Colombian Champion: 1955
    Colombian runner-up: 1961
    Mexican Champion: 1945
    Mexican runner-up: -
    Uruguayan Champion: -
    Uruguayan runner-up: -
    Top League Goal Scorer: never

    [​IMG]
    JOSE MANUEL 'CHARRO' MORENO


    'Charro' Moreno is still considered by many who saw him play to have been the greatest footballer of all time. He was a player with great technique, superior ball skills, creative in midfield, and lethal in the penalty area. He was equally adept with both legs and formidable heading the ball. In addition to his technical virtues, he played with great intelligence, and he also had that elusive instinct which is native to all superior goalscorers, as shown by his statistics which indicate he scored an average of half a goal per match throughout his career,

    Moreno was an inside right for most of his career, but was equally at home in midfield as inside the penalty area. In River’s famous ‘La Maquina’ he would often withdraw to midfield to organize the team, and to help with ball recovery. He was a natural athlete who could outrun most players on the field, even though he payed little attention to training. He smoked, drank, was famous for his nighttime escapades, and yet his career outlasted that of most of his contemporaries, as he played until the age of 44.

    Moreno was born August 3rd 1916, to a poor family in the Buenos Aires neighborhood of ‘La Boca’. He grew up playing football in the shadow of ‘La Bombonera’, Boca Juniors stadium, and was a huge fan of the club. At the age of 15 he tried out for Boca and scored two goals in a practice game, yet he was rejected. Moreno was crushed by this rejection by the club he loved, and he angrily told the trainer that he would live to regret that decision for the rest of his life. Shortly after he tried out and was signed by archrival River Plate.

    His debut at River with the first division club was in 1934, at the age of 18, during a tour of Brazil, in a match against Botafogo which River won 2-1. At the beginning he lined up on the left side, alongside legendary players like Peucelle, Renato Cesarini and Bernabe Ferreira. In his first two full seasons with River, Moreno was the top goalscorer in the club, ahead of Bernabe Ferreira.

    After these players retired, Moreno moved to the right, and the famous team called ‘La Maquina’ (the Machine) was formed, with Pedernera as centerforward, Labruna and Lostau on the left, and Munoz as the outside right.

    At this time River Plate became the elite team in Argentina, and Moreno was its biggest star, displaying his great dribbling, his dominant air game, his strategic acumen, his ability with the ball, his power, his goals, and even his sacrifice in recovery. With River Plate, Moreno won the Argentine title in 1936, 1937, 1941, 1942 and 1947.

    [​IMG]
    The forward line of 'La Maquina'

    In 1944, he was lured to Mexico with a lucrative offer by Club Espana, and with this club he conquered Mexico and won the Mexican league title in 1945.

    He returned to River in 1946, scoring three goals in his return match, a 5-1 victory over Atlanta and one of his greatest exhibitions. After the match, the ecstatic crowd broke down the protective fence and invaded the pitch, to celebrate with their idol. During this time Moreno was joined at River by a new teammate who later became one of the great players of all time, Alfredo Di Stefano. Di Stefano recalls Moreno fondly as a mentor and tells many stories about how Moreno influenced him as a young player.

    One of these stories tells of a match against Tigre, when Moreno was hit in the head by a projectile from the stands and went down, bleeding profusely. Di Stefano recalls that he asked if he should call for assistance, and Moreno replied with an angry profanity. He got back up, called the young DiStefano and told him: ‘Kid, listen to me carefully. If a player goes down on the field and he doesn’t get back up on his own, it better be because he's dead.' Moreno continued playing as if nothing had happened. Di Stefano was impressed by that incident, and throughout his great career, no matter how hurt he was, he never asked for assistance from the bench. Di Stefano adds that he is glad that Moreno isn’t around to watch today’s players, as they shamefully fall down and stay down over the most minimal contact.

    In 1948 Argentine players went on strike, and Moreno was transferred to Universidad Catolica of Chile for the sum of 1.5 million argentine pesos, an outrageous amount at the time. He led the ‘U’ to the Chilean title in 1949, at the age of 34, and in the process became a legend in yet another country.

    In 1949 Boca Juniors had the worst season in its history, and needed a win in its final match of the season to avoid relegation. The club was depleted and saddled in debt. Moreno felt for Boca as much as the average fan, and so decided it was time to patch up with his first love, let bygones be bygones, and fulfil his childhood dream of wearing the blue and gold shirt. He joined Boca Juniors and brought his magic to ‘La Bombonera, but was unable to give them a title, leading them to a second place finish in 1950.

    After playing some time in Uruguay, he joined Deportivo Independiente Medellin of Colombia. Now playing primarily deeper in midfield, he served as Player/Coach for three years, winning two Colombian league titles. He retired in 1957, but in 1960 he was called back by DIM. Again, he served as player/coach. By this time he would primarily coach from the bench, but he would put himself in for a few minutes whenever he felt his team was in trouble and needed help, often bailing them out by scoring one or two goals. With this arrangement, they almost won another league title, finishing in second place.

    Moreno retired in 1961 at the age of 44. He played a final exhibition match for Independiente Medellin against Boca Juniors, scoring two goals.

    Throughout his career Moreno played 359 official first division matches, scoring 179 goals.

    For Argentina’s national team Moreno played 33 matches and scored 20 goals. With Argentina he won the South American title in 1941 and in 1947.

    After his retirement, Moreno coached several clubs, including both Boca Juniors and River Plate, as well as Argentina's national team.

    Moreno died August 26 1978. But he remains alive in memory to every fan who watched him play.

    On a persona note, I want to add that one of the people who still maintain that Moreno is the best Argentine player ever, happens to be my uncle, a man who is more of a football nut than I am, and who was instrumental in giving me a love for the game ever since I was old enough to listen to his stories about the golden age of Argentine football - the age of ‘Charro’ Moreno.


    Season - Club - Games – Goals

    1935.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................20 / 06
    1936.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................33 / 24
    1937.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................31 / 32
    1938.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................31 / 24
    1939.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................24 / 20
    1940.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................33 / 16
    1941.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................28 / 14
    1942.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................28 / 10
    1943.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................22 / 06
    1944.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................06 / 04
    1944/45 Real Club Espana Ciudad de Mexico.....21 / 07
    1945/46 Real Club Espana Ciudad de Mexico.....20 / 04
    1946.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................13 / 08
    1947.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................28 / 10
    1948.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................23 / 06
    1949.... River Plate Buenos Aires....................22 / 08
    1950.... Boca Juniors Buenos Aires.................22 / 06
    1951.... Universidad Catolica Santiago............12 / 02
    1952.... Defensor Montevideo.......................14 / 03
    1953.... Club Ferro Carril Oeste Buenos Aires...15 / 01
    1954.... Indepediente Medellín ......................12 / 03
    1955.... Indepediente Medellín ......................13 / 03
    1956.... Indepediente Medellín ......................15 / 06
    1957-1959 did not play
    1960.... Indepediente Medellín ......................02 / 00
    1961.... Indepediente Medellín ......................01 / 01
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Re: Career Stats: José Manuel Moreno


    I only just noticed this post.

    The statistical information is taken from a book by the IFFHS. The stats concerning Moreno were compiled by Julio Hector Macias (Mar del Plata/Argentina), Carlos F. Ramirez (Bonita/California) and Juan Uribe (Medellin/Colombia).
     

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