Philadelphia Union - 2018 Roster

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  1. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, and technically they're not wrong.

    More on the payroll than years past.
    More GarberBucks spent than ever before.
    More good will destroyed with the fans.
     
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  2. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I predict that sometime next winter, ES will say something along these lines during a press conference:

    "We looked at the data and found that there was no correlation between increased spending on player salaries and improvement on the field and in the standings. Based on this, we have concluded we get better value for our limited funds by spending less on payroll. I mean, who do you think we are, Toronto or Atlanta?"
     
  3. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Fun fact: I built a model in one of my statistics classes back in 2013 looking at this exactly. It's a totally different league now, but the model back then said that if you had to add one player to your roster, 500k-600k was right around the sweet spot to get the biggest points return and things fell off from there. It made sense back then where teams were overpaying for aging stars that probably weren't the best in the locker room and didn't put in the best effort on the field.
     
  4. Looper121

    Looper121 Member

    United States
    Jun 19, 2003
    Sec 104
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $1.7M for Dockal. #ZOMG
     
  5. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    He's a typical starter. The Crew played in Seattle over the weekend and actually know how to rotate a squad.
     
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  6. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $1.5mil for Zlatan.

    Living in a place where its always warm and sunny must be nice.
     
  7. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were also resting his old knees after playing on the plastic grass. Seeing as Cowtown was down a man for a good chunk of that game, the 10 men had to put in more effort, too.
     
  8. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's only the on the books MLS money.
     
  9. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s probably still some truth to that... too bad the only player in that sweet spot for the Union is Simpson.
     
  10. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Continuing to dig into the xG stat and xA more...

    Other post in the Curtin Thread:

    So next I look at the Union's attacking players.
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    It's really a big statement about under-performance (obvious and not shocking)

    Looking at xG I think lets you explain a lot of things away... you look at these numbers and think, WOW CJ really should have 3 more goals than where he is currently at... but then Curtin can rationalize this under-performance with the bad luck narrative we hear so often. Same can go with Fafa's under performance. (even though I think the guy just sucks at finishing) Accam and Dockal blame things on the guys needing time to Gel with the team. Other side of the coin is Ilsinho, what a pleasant surprise to get this production out of him!

    If the Union were playing up to the xG expectations these attacking players score 5 more goals on the season.

    So now Jim and Earnie can either choose to admit that the players aren't good enough/aren't working in the system they are being deployed in, or they can look at xG as evidence the system IS working and buy into their narrative that the players are just getting unlucky and the team and system they built SHOULD be getting better results.

    Can spin it either way with the xG stat.
     
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  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The game winning goal against RSL cost the Union roughly $3M................Bedoya to Dockal.
     
  12. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  15. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know we joke about the Union’s lack of South American/Central American talent, but I was just reading Zeitlin’s article and it dawned on me.. we don’t have a single native Spanish speaker on the roster... are we the only team in the league?

     
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  16. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing that we have taken for granted this year is how few injuries the Union have had. Either the training staff has done an excellent job or it's just luck or a combination of the two, but it's a significant reason why the Union have had success this season and, specifically, during this recent run.

    Think about how different the team would look if Blake, Trusty, Rosenberry, Medunjanin, Bedoya, Dockal, Fafa or Burke were injured for any extended period.

    Almost every team has at least one starter out for the season. https://www.mlssoccer.com/injuries
     
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  17. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    It might be luck or a short sample size, but it links up with everything else. I've said this before, but this is the Earnie Stewart legacy. We actually have a coaching staff, and apparently a good medical staff, and people who work full-time for the team.

    Now we're actually a competitive team on and off the field. We're not a laughing stock when it comes to player movement. The dark days of Chester Park and Kevin Miller's smoothies are long gone.
     
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  18. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wanted to rep you but I'm afraid it'll jinx things.
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  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    Soooo................this signing looks to be heading down the Mo Edu road...............with way less contribution too
     
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  20. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I searched to find when his contract expires and found different answers. An article from the Brotherly Game says that he's under contract through the end of 2020, but if I'm reading his Transfermarkt page correctly, his contract expires at the end of this year. Does anyone know?
     
  21. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  22. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Ernst is having his first official presser.



    I guess nobody told him about the whole Union and paying transfer fees thing...
     
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  23. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This could explain his underwhelming season.
     
  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently he had surgery after last season.............and that surgery didn't fix the issue and he is/was still experiencing pain this season.
     
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  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we bomb out of the playoffs in round 1 how much worse does standing pat in the summer window look?

    A real owner would have seen an opportunity and try to seize it with reinforcements.
     
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