PBP Thread: Germany vs Sweden, 23 June 2018

They can't throw the game. That would mean risk being ousted from the World Cup.

A Serbia win and they are out of the competition.

 

If they do that, Serbia, would have more points than them (currently they are only one point behind),and if Switzerland also wins or has a draw at their match vs. CRica, would be "game over" for Brazil.

If anyone has the best position to secure the 2nd place in the group, those would be the swiss team, as they can go straight for the draw vs. CRica, to secure the 2nd place of the group (If Brazil draws or wins, Brazil ends first; if Brazil loses, Serbia would be first).

 

I was hoping VAR will cut out controversy. But FIFA seems to have rigged the system slightly differently. Thankfully Russia won by merit alone, but the big guns are being pushed through ever so slightly by guidelines, referee selection and most likely backroom suggestions.

Still VAR is a step in the right direction and a lot of bad calls have been made right. But surprisingly all the 'big' teams still seem to have the edge with ref decision making.

 

On the contrary, now FIFA with the VAR has the perfect tool, to have whatever team they want, to win the WC championship.

Haven't you wondered why in the VAR team, one of the members in it, is an administrative official and actually, not even a referee ? (another conspiracy issue)

 

Somehow the four or five people in charge didn’t happen to see what everyone else did.

 

The more I get to see how it has worked till now, the more I hate it.

 

I don't think Brazil or England got much help from VAR . . . quite the reverse actually.

As for the non-PK call today, I think it was ever so slightly short of being a clear PK. Maybe my viewpoint is a bit skewed because I'm used to seeing plays like this not called in MLS games from time to time, but the referee had a good view of it and decided not to call it. I don't generally want VAR getting involved unless the call was absolutely 100% wrong, as was the case for the Brazil PK call against Costa Rica.

 

One more thing: I'm no fan of yellows and reds, but the threshold for yellows and reds at this World Cup is ridiculously low. The players have caught on and the roughness levels have increased game after game.

FIFA is just asking for a tragedy to occur.

 

With the referee's being held as accomplice to it, for allowing it happen

 

Yes i said that before too, Brazil cant control who they wanna meet, because they cant take that risk.

 

Examples?

Germany should have had a PK vs Mexico for example

 

When exactly?

 

That foul to set up Kross's set piece goal was amateur as well.

 

70ish minute
Reus was involved . It was a handball

edit:
Here
https://i.imgur.com/7H4W474.png
Just before it hits his hand

It happened in the 74th minute

This angle is from the 78th

Please do not make me do this into a gif. I don't have the programs anymore and I am too lazy to install them

 

74:10 on the clock and yes it looked like a clear handball. Funny it got zero commentary from the team calling the match for us in English. But it clearly got discussed as it was replayed a few minutes later.

 

That was 100% a penalty. Boateng didn't make any attempt to play the ball and Berg crashed into the ball, he didn't shoot. If the referee had used VAR, he would have awarded the penalty and he would have given Boateng a yellow (arguably a red). He elected not to.

 

I know how the system works and have seen less contact reviewed by the ref after a call from VAR.

I wouldn't be winging at all. It was a clear foul and red card. Don't try to compare that to Neymar's flop vs CR.

 

I have yet to see any actual referee say that should have been a red. Not one.

 

LEARN HOW THE BLOODY SYSTEM WORKS!!!

The CR doesn't "elect" to look. the VAR elects to send it down, which didn't happen. Guess why? A highly qualified referee didn't see the obvious 100% penalty that you lovely couch surfers do. I find that very interesting.

Second, the notion that Boateng didn't attempt to play the ball is a competely Trump level fabrication. I went back and watched, and funny how the whiner crowd is simultaneous complaininig "It's a trip!" from boateng's leg reaching for the ball and "he didn't go for the ball!" Apparently Boateng has a second autnomous pair of legs or something.

Third, he supposedly deserves a red card. For what exactly?

 

Actually, the rest of us did see: a challenge that doesn't rise to the level of DFK, and a lot of whiner fans. Funny how the most highly qualified referees in the world didn't see what you saw.

All you're doing is undermining you're own credibility, big time.

 

FYI, Yellows per match in 2018: 3.0
Yellows per match in 2014: 2.9
Yellows per game 2010: 4

 

It wasnt as football unlike basketball is not a contactless sport. Both the ref and VAR agreed with this