News: Patriots Owner Bob Kraft to be arrested

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  1. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
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    United States
    I can’t/won’t speak to item 1. But for item two, I saw a tweet and/or article with the full list of names (it was a photo of an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper). I don’t think he was singled out by the police. I think the press just ran with the most notable name on the full list.

    As an aside, the article I read on ESPN said that for this misdemeanor charge in that locality, for first time offenders, they offer an option of 100 hours community service and paying their own “tuition” to go to traffic school (bad joke about human trafficking - a class on the downside effects of prostitution/soliciting). He doesn’t seem to be in that much legal hot water to me. The NFL discipline will be worse than that.
     
  2. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh what the heck... On item 1, it doesn’t seem inconsistent with other sting operations. They let the crimes go on while they try to figure out how to find the highest level ringleaders and build a solid case against them. It is valid to question how long is too long but this case doesn’t seem to be an anomaly.. Further, the letting it go on, from what I read, wasn’t intended to get Bob Kraft into deeper trouble. It was to identify, capture, prosecute higher level organizers of the human trafficking.

    Bob Kraft is just a John... collateral damage effectively.
     
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  3. teskicks

    teskicks Member+

    New England Revolution
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    Jan 14, 2002
    Wrentham, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that was a list of 25 out of 200 so there are more names to come. No idea why they didn’t release all of them but I’ve heard there are bigger names than Kraft yet to be released.
     
  4. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...al-sordid-world-thriving-amid-florida-royalty

    "The 77-year-old Kraft proclaims his innocence in a broader investigation that ensnared two other prominent financiers, including John Havens, Citigroup Inc.’s former president. John Childs, a buyout pioneer, was also charged in a related prostitution investigation. The police say in total 26 encounters are captured on video in the Orchids."

    I'm really having a hard time casting Bob Kraft as the victim here.
     
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  5. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with this sentiment exactly. Yes, it's innocent until proven guilty, but the circumstantial evidence is really strong here. I just don't understand (unless it's a Tiger-like addiction), why a man of his means would go to pretty much the lowest of the low prostitution houses when he could do adultfriendfinder or AshleyMadison, or a high-end escort service that'd come to his hotel.

    On the issue of why the investigation was 6 months, it's about getting enough evidence to stand up in court. I have family in law enforcement and it's a strong directive to not just figure out that there's a crime going on, but to get enough evidence to nail the perps (or sometimes find the next step up the chain).

    As someone else already posted, I'm impressed with the maturity and sanity on this board about this topic. I'm utterly disgusted by talk radio's immediate defense of Mr. Kraft with the "victimless crime" defense. I don't think Glen Ordway should really be trying to convey the idea of women brought to America on false pretenses and held and forced to sell sex as not victims.
     
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  6. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So as it turns out, there have been no sex trafficking charges filed. This is because there was no sex trafficking. Both women were Florida residents with massage therapy licenses:

    "Prosecutors and law-enforcement officials had described the investigation as a probe into human trafficking and portrayed the men who patronized the spas as contributing to the demand for sex slavery. In announcing the charges, Dave Aronberg, the state attorney for Palm Beach County, had called human trafficking “evil in our midst,” echoing the rhetoric of law-enforcement officials.

    But no one has been charged with human trafficking in the case. Prosecutors’ affidavits have not detailed evidence of human trafficking at Orchids of Asia Day Spa.

    “The police are making this case that this is a major human trafficking ring, and that’s why it’s so serious,” said Duncan Levin, a former federal prosecutor and managing partner of Tucker Levin, PLLC who is not connected to the case. “The fact that they had cameras installed in the locations for so long somewhat undermines the claim that there was an extraordinary danger to the people working in the establishment.

    At least one of the women Mr. Kraft was alleged to have engaged with was an operator of the spa, while both were licensed, according to Florida Department of Health records.”
     
  7. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Patriots Owner Wants Prostitution Video Blocked From Public
     
  8. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    And he kisses Tom Brady with that mouth?
     
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  9. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kissing costs extra, don't you know that?

    Seriously this spot was just a standard rub-and-tub joint, yet the cops tried to make it out like they just busted an international ring of sex traffickers. Now they want to release the videos of the alleged sex-trafficked "victims" forced to perform sexual acts? Doesn't sound like the cops are treating them as victims now.
     
  10. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Odds are good Kraft is spending more on legal fees than the revs' payroll.
     
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  12. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
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  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    sell the effin' team, you douche.
     
  14. pwykes

    pwykes Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Auburn, MA
    Should be arrested for crimes against soccer.
     
  15. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Made me chuckle. :thumbsup:
     

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