PBP: P/I/P Game 27: LA Galaxy v. New York City FC, 8/23/2015 at 12:00 PM PST

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  1. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Undefeated in the month of August, 6 wins while scoring 23 times and allowing 5 goals. I'm so pumped
     
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  2. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know NYC and Philly are leagues away in quality, but his game against Philly was his best IMHO (he took that game over and outshone Keane....who does that?)
     
  3. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #454 Bilgediver, Aug 24, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2015
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    Match Report. Taking screenshots from my phone :)
     
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  5. RafaDaGafa

    RafaDaGafa Member

    Sep 28, 2007
    They seriously need to overhaul their scoring system :)

    So Leonardo, who was not only arguably the best defender but hovering around MOTM, according to these 'experts' was LA Galaxy's lowest scoring defender. I mean there's opinion, error and then there's so patently wrong it becomes laughable. Guess which category this comes under.

    And that's also way too high for Gio and WAYYY too low for Zardes and Lletget. I have no idea what these people are smoking when it comes to scoring time :)
     
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  6. pastor

    pastor Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    They are puzzling. Keanne was great but considering the number of chances he missed I would not give him a 10. I would have had all players with a minimum of an 8 on this match.

    Here is another look at the game. I have never been able to figure these out either but its all interesting and helpful.

    http://mls.squawka.com/la-galaxy-vs-new-york-city-fc/23-08-2015/us-major-league-soccer/matches
     
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  7. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. WarGalaxy

    WarGalaxy Member+

    May 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Ricket's outlet pass to Lletget that stated to sequence for Keane's 2nd goal, I can now vividly imagine every single starting player on the Galaxy having a moment of shear brilliance in this match. When was the last time we could say that about a Galaxy or MLS team?
     
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  9. reFnCoach

    reFnCoach Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    SoCal
    No, this is BigSoccer, and the time to panic is NOW.
     
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  10. shelbo

    shelbo Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    L.A.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really enjoyed watching Rogers and Lleget working together down the left side. Not just the play that led to the assist, but time and time again there was an overlap, or a little one/two. That's what happens when you finally get to play together more than one game in a row!
     
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  11. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    AJ had a great first half, he was basically on a playoff mode. Maybe his best game of the season.

    Leo was a monster, maybe his best game in a Galaxy uniform. He had a few very impressing interventions who literally stopped NYCFC attacks like the one against Villa during the second half. In his last three games he has played like the Leonardo of the end of last season. It's almost impossible to bench him when he plays like this.

    Rogers had two amazing games in a row and the partnership he's developing with Lletget looks very promising. The last goal was insane and it was great to see them hug after Keane scored. One of the few criticisms we can make on Rogers's game is despite constantly getting forward he has not scored a lot of goals or got a lot of assists during his time with us. He got an assist in two games in a row now and guess what? On this two assists Lletget made the final pass.

    (shelbo beat me to it :D)

    It's amazing to say Omar was our worst defender yesterday because he simply did his job.:D With a defense like this we don't really need a top keeper. Ricketts has not been tested a lot so it's still hard to juge if he's past it or no.

    Zardes may have his best game for us. I predicted it : when the team will start to click he will be a lot better. He needs other players to make him shine and I'm OK with it. Way to go Gyasi!
     
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  12. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    So mad at Jaime right now. Ricketts didn’t do anything wrong yesterday, he didn’t have a lot to do, but honestly with a top-notch keeper between the sticks LA wins MLS Cup again. Well of course ignoring the fact we can sometime shit the bed in the playoffs despite a great season (v Dallas in 2010 and v RSL in 2013)
     
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  13. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2013 the team just didn't have the experience to make it----too much reliance on young kids and issues reworking the team.

    2010.....that is the year that the great keeper comes in to play. Hartman stoned us, and stoned us, and stoned us until the team got caught out for a goal and had to chase the game. He seriously turned that game all on his own. That's what can always happen in a playoff match, and why it's sure be nice to have a beast in goal who can win you a game when the chips are down....
     
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  14. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jaime is not a top notch keeper in MLS. He really isn't. I do prefer him to Ricketts but on a scale of 1-10, Jaime is a 7.5 (though his play was at a higher level in the weeks before he bailed) and Ricketts is a 6.

    Not the end of the world.
     
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  15. LEM-LAG

    LEM-LAG Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    The 2013 season was not great... Terrible offseason with no real reinforcements during the summer (apart from Penedo), no real wingers, no depth (or too young depth), Donovan not at his best...

    BUT during this 2013 season we saw glimpses of the tiki-taco with some great performances at home, like a 4-0 win againt the Sounders with 4 goals in thr first half, a 4-2 win against RSL and a 2-0 win against KC. So basically I think the success of 2014 would have not happened without the failure of 2013.
     
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  16. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, right now Ricketts is the weak link…. Injuries and a Rickett meltdown are my worries now...
     
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  17. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    Hartman was a total monster that day. Yallop gets a lot of flack, trading Hartman was probably the most harmful thing he ever did to LA. I don’t think 2007/2008 would have been nearly so awful with Kevin between the sticks instead of Wickes/Cannon/Cronin/wasn’t there someone else?
     
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  18. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personally, I'd prefer someone better than both. It seems like a long time since we really had a top keeper. Probably Hartman, to be honest.
     
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  19. pastor

    pastor Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    One big improvement with this team is they are now passing the ball into space more rather than simply to the player. That tells me the chemistry is there and the players are learning each others tendencies.
     
  20. WarGalaxy

    WarGalaxy Member+

    May 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    If you go to the site you can click through the stats and at least see where the ratings come from. As fans invested in the game we tend to notice and remember the ooh and ahh moments because they stand out. And Leo had two of those - both picture perfect tackles in dangerous situations where a mistake would have been costly. But whoscored counts everything, including a events that most of us don't notice or keep track of during a game because they aren't memorable and are too numerous to keep up with. But when taken in aggregate those other events are relevant to the team's success.

    Here are some of the whoscored comparisons for our defenders, with leaders in each category bolded:

    Name - Tackles - Interceptions - Clearances - Blocked Shots-Aerials Won - Shots - Key Passes - Touches
    Rogers-------3-------------1----------------1--------------------1--------------1----------------1------------2------------45
    Leo-----------2-------------4---------------2--------------------1--------------0---------------0------------0------------42
    Omar--------1--------------4---------------8--------------------1--------------5---------------1------------0------------51
    AJDLG-----2--------------3---------------2--------------------1--------------0---------------0-------------1------------45

    They also have Pass Accuracy, Successful Dribbles, Dispossessed, Missed Tackles, Bad Control Touches, Through Balls, Accurate Through Balls, Long Balls, Accurate Long Balls, Crosses, Accurate Crosses, etc., all of which also go into the player rating but I didn't want to go to the trouble of adding. Of these Leo also had 2 missed tackles, and was dribbled 2 of 4 times.

    So the picture drawn by the stats is that Leo had a good but not outstanding game.

    But obviously stats don't show the whole picture. For example there is no stat showing how often Leo immediately got on a NYCFC players back as soon as he received the ball, pressuring the hell out of him, and not letting him turn.

    I think stats accumulators like whoscored are a valuable addition to the subjective impressions we get while watching the game. And vice-versa, our live game observations are a valuable addition to that should inform our interpretations of the statistics.

    I think both methods of evaluating players should be taken into account and neither just blithely dismissed as irrelevant. But that's just me.
     
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  22. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    Sure, not the end of the world. Complaining about Ricketts is the MLS equivalent of “first world problems”, but on paper I’d say Penedo is on par with the other teams in the running for the Supporters’ Shield, except perhaps Bill Hamid and maybe Frei.
     
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  23. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    I don’t think they’re quite accurate in who gets first class and who doesn’t. I think on non-chartered flights the Galaxy book X amount of first class tickets and allocate them. No doubt the DPs get dibs, but other players also get the opportunity. There was that now infamous blow up on a flight to Hawaii where Celestine Babyaro was miffed he wasn’t one of the chosen few.

    // edit: of course things may be different now.
     
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  24. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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