I mean, theoretically, if the day just goes by where the UK leaves the EU then everybody who's not a UK citizen needs to leave and reapply to get back in. 2/3 of the players would just have to leave. I think it could destroy the PL in about a week.
Please let this happen so all the geniuses who believe foreigners are crippling the English national team, can finally have their cake and eat it too.
As big as the EPL is. And it's really big for us here on this board. The effect of Brexit on non-British EPL players would be a pretty tiny wave in the ocean of ramifications. I'll admit I'm no Brexit scholar, but I keep thinking that they're gonna pull back from the brink, get another extension on Article 50, have another referendum, and then either the vote is to stay (which could lead to it's own sort of domestic unrest) or leave (but at least they'd have bought some more time to figure "how" to leave). But it's crazy stuff these days... on both sides of the Atlantic. [Edit 1 day later: thank you to everyone for showing restraint in not slamming what may be a naive interpretation of Brexit options, or for that matter voicing a little bit of politics on a footy board]
You're right, but it still doesn't mean that there are shitloads of idiots who wouldn't understand what was happening until their entertainment stopped.
Meanwhile, in between stories today about the dysfunction in Washington & London, I was thinking about Arsenal's predicament this week... The dominant feeling for me right now is of an organization which was in really bad shape (financially, management wise, etc) but they did a good job of keeping it under the covers. Yeah for months there's a primary running controversy which just wouldn't resolve (in our case, that's Ozil) but still the negative focus is pretty narrow. Then, all of a sudden, in the course of a few days, several more bad things are disclosed, and then you realize how bad it seems to be. And when things like this happen, management has to somehow get out in front of the problem, and some very senior person needs to be a public spokesperson. To mitigate the concern. There is surely fact-based concern, and then there is also irrational or speculative concern. They should at least be able to do a reasonable job of quelling the latter. And if they don't, I think in a very short time this might snowball out of control. With the media having a feeding frenzy. Which could induce further turmoil. Pray no.
Individual countries control their own visa requirements For example Holland and Germany already made statements that UK passport holders resident in those countries don't have to leave The UK already has it's own process for settled status So basically this won't impact current premium league players Future players will need to apply for work permits
. Yes basically EU players would now need to go thru the work permit process same as say a Brazillian. Of course HM Gov can make any regs it likes in these spaces.
Depends on status. No EU players would currently have work permits as they were not required. Some EU players will be eligible for settled status - e.g there are guys who have been in the UK 5 or more years, who if they were not on an EU passport, would now be eligible to apply for citizenship if they wanted to. This is where it is all unfair on EU citizens. If you went to the UK say as a Brazillian, you would have got a work permit in your passport, so now 5 years later you would be ready to take the test and get your UK passport. This is what all my kiwi friends did, but ironically our european buddies, some of whom stayed in the UK much longer, end up with nothing. If you were not in the UK for 5 years, you can still get presettled status. This seems to be the equivalent of Indefinite Leave to Remain better known as ILR. So you can stay until you qualify for citizenship. Of course this is all fine in theory but whether you actually get given this by the Home Office is another matter. I guess footballers will get nice treatment compared to everyone else. https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/what-settled-and-presettled-status-means If you weren't living and working in the UK before 31 Dec 2020 you cannot apply under this grandfather system and you'd need to get a work permit.
I think it stops Chelsea and city farming youth Maybe we see kids staying and actually developing before they move? Instead of being written off at 21 Ps fcuk Brexit
This thread re Ornstein suggests Ozil has been holding up his end Instead Emery wants him out for financial reasons and has told him it would be best if he leaves More on Özil:"...I’ve heard positive things about his behaviour, his commitment, his relationships with the teammates. I don’t think that’s ever been a problem, but he’s clearly out of favour with the manager and that’s a very expensive problem for the club to have.” pic.twitter.com/A0seQ0LngE— Cannon Insider (@CannonInsider) January 17, 2019
I know emery can be petty. He had a bust up with Neymar bc he wanted to do shooting practice instead of stretching with the team. I think he had a bust up with Bacca (or maybe Banega) when the player refused to do the required cold shower/icing or whatever after only making a sub appearance. Emery smoothed those over though pretty quickly iirc. I can totally see this escalating from near nothing. Would be nice if ozil would actually come out with his side of it instead of the passive aggressive Instagram posts.
why? This would do nothing but make things worse. And when in Ozil's career has he been a malcontent? People believing Emery's side with no evidence. Ozil loved playing under that sociopath Mourinho. He is not the big problem.
Didn’t say he was malcontent. Just said it would be nice to have actual and direct words if there is as much to this as the press is projecting—remember him slaughtering DFB? In any case, Emery said today that ozil is in contention for Chelsea. He trained for two weeks since he was out so I guess we will see. If he is picked then I guess whoever is the instigator has come around.
yeah, and Ozil then retired from German National team after that. Do you want Ozil to retire from Arsenal?
Jesus dude. Of course not. If ozil is being pushed out the door by Emery as the press is pushing though, he should speak up. What’s he got to lose? Assuming ozil is fit and stays fit, the next couple of weeks should shed light. The window will close, there are big games which we need him to play and play well.
I agree with @DaPrince84. I don't see anything good coming from a direct Ozil response. I think him keeping his head down and working hard to possibly change Emery's mind is his best course. Explicitly contradicting or challenging him in the press would only (IMO) make Emery go on the defensive and there'd be almost no chance of reconciliation. As it now stands there could be, and if worst case we go through the rest of the season with Emery only playing him sporadically, then he can try to orchestrate a move in the summer.
His standing. It doesn't look good for him to speak up now. The Germany situation was different because he retired. He scorched Earth and said Im out. This is different.
Unless he's playing against us, I wish him nothing but the best. Hope he's a success there. 2 - nil down, 3 - 2 up. That's how Arsenal won the Cup.......
Linking this to another topic on this thread, if after Brexit, work permits get sifgnificantly more difficult to obtain, are Arsenal going to regret letting Ramsey walk?