Out With The Old & In With 7he New - Transfers, Rumors, & Lies Thread

What are you talking about?

I get that , JL for sure wasnt blameless and the coach is defintely always goig to be fall guy if things aren't going smoothly. My point was that Solari is a downgrade but then again hindsight is 20/20.

To be clear im not saying that things were rosy under JL, what im saying is that they're worse under Solari, keep in mind that under JL we were playing much tougher teams than we've had to under Solari .

 

This i agree with and i dont think there is any coach in the world that could make it work with these guys, we simply have to sell some of them and bring in fresh faces, experienced fresh faces that is since we already got the youth part covered.

 

JL was aweful. Anyone stating something else is crazy.

 

Yep.. And until that happens spare me the Solari bashing..
Zidane experienced the same issue and this is why he left. He knew he would not win anything with these players anymore.

 

I do remember it very well, I’m just not attributing to JL, it’s not like we haven’t created chances during the goal drought, we did and the players failed to convert them.

Yes the players are part of the problem but Solari deserves most of the criticism he gets so no the Solari bashing won’t stop.

 

Sacking Lope was the right move. We barely beat Plzen at home by the end of his tenure. CL qualification to next round was in jeopardy with two away games coming up against Plzen and Roma. Solari isn't much better, but we benefited from new coach effect in those games.

 

and what is wrong with stating those facts when we are comparing the two managers.. It seems some here forgot how bad we were under Lopetegui so they need to be refreshed. I wouldn't say that is bashing.

I also said this when he got fired.

"I feel bad for him but he really needed to go. 9th place , 5 loses in the last 6 games.. WTF... I can’t recall the last time we were this bad."

 

You are holding on to a dubious stat.. At the end of the day managers are rated based on results, not on chances created, we have always been a team that misses chances.. off the top of my head we have missed a ton in these last few games.. Both Isco and Diaz had clear goal opportunities yesterday and missed.. Valverde had another one the other day..
Against Sociedad..we were robbed of a penalty and is very probable had it been CR7 and not Vini making some of those 6 shots he had in the game at least one would have gone in..

 

Well we missed Piatek. He wasn’t going to be our saviour nor replacement for Ron but he could have given us more options on 9.

Do we expect any reinforcements in January still so we can at least try to get a fourth UCL This year?

 

Three things happened that cost JL his job.

1) he was supposed to get the best out of Isco, Asensio, Lucas (and similarly Benz, Kroos, Marcelo because they fit his style/system), but that didn't happen . You could try and blame management for not getting him the player he wanted (Rodrigo) but I doubt that would have fixed this mess.

2) when plan A didn't work he didn't change things up and try new things. (As noted he was bringing in VJ and Mariano in the 89th minute instead of trying to get them meaningful minutes to integrate). At least Solari is showing some flexibility here (and to his credit during an injury crisis). This is all on JL, he had chances to get creative but chose to bang his head against the wall.

3) Dammit. I'm at work and I was interrupted and now I forgot. But our record, the classico, etc., it would have been negligent to do nothing.

 

I'm hungry for transfer rumors

 

It’s not a “dubious” stat in this context though. you’re trying to use the goal drought as a way to discredit JL, these stats are perfectly legitimate way of proving that said goal drought is more on the players than the coach.
The fact that we’ve always missed chances is also on the players that missed said chances not on anyone that was coaching them at the time.

 

I cut Solari some slack because he had never coached a professional team before in his life plus he is a temp.

 

I'll cut Solari some slack.

 

If Florentino isn't attempting to push Ozil out, how could slamming a door make a situation worse?

The reality is Ozil gave a first hand account of the situation; Florentino wanted him at best out of the first team so he made him uncomfortable.

If Florentino did the same with Benzema or Bale instead of always coming to their defense, backing them, etc.. they would get the hint no differently than Robben, Sneijder, etc..

The reality you guys keep trying to deny is Florentino has never wanted to part with Benzema or Bale and he thought he could sign Mbappe as a role player behind BBC.

He was badly wrong and we are paying for it.

 

A loan move Asensio to a team like Dortmund would be interesting. I'd keep Benz and Isco but sell Bale and ideally loan Mariano out. Mariano needs to be playing.

 

Nah, Mariano’s not going out on loan. He’s past that point in his career. He’ll be 26 this year. He’ll probably leave in the summer because he won’t get a real chance to play regularly here.

 

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better get something from the kitchen, because none will happen.

 

Eder Militao could become a Real Madrid player in the coming days

Would not join until 30 June

https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/01/17/5c4100c7268e3e184d8b457c.html