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Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by KMJvet, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, just because Garber says that, a team therefore is obligated to sell off their Golden Boot/MLS Cup winner? I don't think so.
     
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  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  3. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    My guess is that Atlanta just figured that Martinez is more valuable as an actual player for the club than whatever dollar amount they could have sold him for. It's possible there wasn't interest in him, but after a record breaking year, I am sure there were teams interested.

    Also, I'm not sure a complaint about his productivity is warranted. Over his two years in the league, he has scored 50 times in 54 matches, and that includes some assists. He scored 35 goals in 39 games in 2018. Think about how incredible that is. That is very close to a goal a game both last season and over his career so far. Nobody else is even close to that.

    I don't think he can sustain quite that amount of success in 2019, but come on, his scoring ability is nearing unprecedented levels for MLS.
     
  4. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, I do agree Josef Martinez is and should remain top of MLS scoresheets for awhile. As I said, he plays like Carlos Ruiz, one of mls’ all-time greats. But a long cushy contract could work against him and ATL, if he loses his motivation
     
  5. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now I get it. ExtraTimeRadio says that the 5-year contract doesn’t mean Josef will stay at ATL that long, but it does lock in their ability to get a transfer fee if he leaves.
     
  7. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That would make sense. They retain him for what are likely his prime production years with the ability to earn some good money for him if there's enough interest. There's always a risk that a player will drop in quality and a five year contract is pretty long for MLS to the point where he could potentially become a bit of an albatross.

    But he's 25, not 29. I think he'll still be scoring lots of goals for a while yet. This isn't an Albert Pujols situation where he gets signed for ten years after he's already steeply in decline.
     
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  8. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Wow - that's too bad!
     
  10. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    terrible news.
     
  11. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    why not, he's one of the biggest stars the sport has ever produced. I'm a little biased though having watched his early career with Manchester United...he was great then and he's one the top handful of players the world has ever known
     
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  13. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll assume you don't know what has happened to Emiliano Sala and not that you can't recognize a tone def tweet the likes of which one would expect from the family of the current white house occupant...
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Forza Juve & Ronny! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    you're right, I didn't make that connection at all. in light of the loss of this great, young Argentinian player, might be better for Cristiano to tone it down a little. the White House comment I'll disregard as I try to keep my politics out of here, I really appreciate that we do that here as I find the current situation consuming.
     
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  16. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #6866 DotMPP, Jan 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2019
    :cool:

    Sorry I could have been more specific... I was equating that Ronaldo tweet to the one Don Jr did regarding the "economic lesson" he wanted to teach everyone about how he was going to take his kid's halloween candy as some sort of socialism lesson... The point being, not whether one is for or against socialism, rather the fact that he wanted to start with "donated" capital in the first place with his lesson. I found the "look at me in my beautiful plane" about as senseless.

    Also, probably, Ronaldo didn't know either when he posted it, but seems odd that he's not taken it down yet.
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  18. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow I didn't even realize he had gotten a head coaching job - but 3 months as HC is pretty short.
    However, considering what a sociopath I thought Thierry Henry was, I'd be really surprised if he were able to manage a team.
     
  20. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Giving youth a chance. In the Premier League so far this season, (23 games), the number of minutes given to players 22 and under. And their placement in the league.

    Leicester 8373 9th
    Arsenal
    4467 5th
    Everton
    4455 11th
    West Ham
    4134 10th
    Tottenham
    4083 3rd
    Wolves
    3962 8th
    Huddersfield
    3089 20th
    Liverpool
    2553 1st
    Bournemouth
    2400 12th
    Man Utd
    2009 6th
    Fulham
    1975 19th
    Crystal Palace 1965 14th
    Southampton 1671 15th
    Newcastle 1409 17th
    Man City 1107 2nd
    Brighton 863 13th
    Burnley 440 16th
    Watford 296 7th
    Chelsea 151 4th
    Cardiff 0 18th

    Leicester was by far the most willing to give younger players a chance and they are sitting practically smack dab in the middle of the table at 9th.
    The top ten placements in the league had 7 of the top 10 in minutes for younger players, the bottom ten of the table only had 3 of the top 10 in minutes for younger players.
    So, overall, those that are giving younger players more minutes are doing better than teams that don't.
    What the minutes don't reflect is how many of the players 22 and under are domestic or a foreign import.
    Neil Warnock at Cardiff is betting that experience keeps the Bluebirds in the EPL, but, so far that strategy is not paying off.
     
  21. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    I hate flying under the best of circumstances, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those small flying coffins.
     
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  22. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #6873 Earthshaker, Jan 30, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2019
    I am the same way. I have a couple of friends who are private pilots and I have resisted invitations to go flying with them even though I know that both of them have a ton of experience and keep their planes well maintained. Still, unlike a commercial jet, there is only one pilot and one engine, something goes wrong with either component and you become a news item.
    What I found interesting about the Sala case was that Cardiff's manager, Neil Warnock, said he believed he had flown with that same pilot before, ( who by all accounts was very experienced). This begs the question , do teams in England regularly use private pilots and small planes to ferry players/staff around? Was it Cardiff that arranged this flight, or Sala? Very sad story to read, but, you have to question the judgement of having a player fly in a small private plane at night, in the middle of winter, over the English Channel.
     
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  23. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Back in 1996, I went flying several times with a client who had his aviation license in a two-seater plane from Palo Alto's tiny airport. We flew over the Golden Gate Bridge, (akin to kicking a ball through over the goal posts) and directly over the high rises in the San Francisco financial district, as well as over Mt. Hamilton. I was given the controls for a period of time on several occasions, including over mountains returning to the Bay from the Central Valley, which was an adventure. I look back and think how young and crazy I was. I would never do that again.
     
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  24. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #6875 DotMPP, Jan 30, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2019
    You all are funny. We're all more likely to die of a heart attack or a car crash than a private aircraft crash. :rolleyes:

    My father was a pilot for TWA and being a member of a flying club based at Palo Alto airport I tried my hand at learning to fly while in high school. A move to K.C. Mo in '79 cut that adventure short - big promotion for my dad - as there was no longer cheap access to an aircraft like I had at Palo Alto ($20-$30/hr plus fuel) but still, a mindset was drilled into me by all the folks I met: Always assume the engine will quit, know where you will land, don't be a gauge reader and assume the weather will get worse not better when you see iffy stuff on the horizon.
     
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