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We'll see. Being a star in Duisburg and making the first team at BVB are two entirely different things.

 

Right.

But doing it in the 2. Liga and doing it in the 1. Liga are two completely different things.

That doesn't change no matter where one "starts."

I hope he does make it, but you guys act like he's already a "shoo-in" and he isn't.

 

Read some of your own comments man.

It's more than that.

We're fine with Owo and Piszczek for the next few years.

And there's no guarantee Koch will want to stay.

If I were his agent, I'd be looking at every offer they can get.

He's the one in control here.

 

They think it will get him to raise his game.

Some of Lars Ricken's best in-season performances were the times he wore the captain's armband.

Some players respond positively to leadership responsibilities.

Somehow, I don't think Podolski will. Too full of himself.

 

The key word is HOPEFULLY Cris.

It is nice how you can put players out to pasture just to make a point.

BTW, if Owo is re-signed and gets hurt again and Piszczek gets hurt, both Hummels and Bender can play right back.

And if we're stuck with Kringe, so can he.

So can Leitner.

Need I go on?


The world won't end if Julian Koch moves on.

 

Go back and read what you two write.

It isn't that you're "positive" about him.

It is that you two have him down as a "sure thing" already.

Again, if you think I'm overreacting, go back and read what you two write.

KC at least knows there is a chance he might not come back.

Another thing, if I had a dime for every young guy who had a nice 2. Liga season, but failed in the 1. Liga, I'd be a very rich man.

I HOPE Koch stays and I HOPE Koch is successful FOR US at the 1. Liga level.

But there's nothing sure about it and I don't see where having a great season at Duisburg makes it any more possible.

It is a process. How about we let him go through this process without handing him the job in the future already?

I do agree on being happy about his development.

But you didn't mention that until you felt you had to defend yourself.

Basically, I wish you two would stop heaping expectations on Koch.

Praise him. Of course. But don't act like he's going to be the next big thing.

Let his development decide that.

 

And the key is, let's wait and see.

Same with us as a team.

We kicked ass the first half of the season. Let's see if we can keep it up.

Koch kicked ass in this half of the season. Let's see if he can keep it up.

Basically, I feel the praise you guys heap on him is pretty premature.

But you know what? I guess I am overreacting.

I'll try not to say anything from here on out.

I just hope he proves you guys right.

I can just remember when everyone thought these same things about players like Brzenska and Kruska.

They were sure things. Now they're both in Cottbus.

 

Dude. Hoffenheim is not Man Shitty, Chelski or even Wolfsburg.

Hoffenheim may have a rich sponsor, but their and his goal is to make the football program self-sufficient as soon as possible.

At Hoffenheim, that is a real goal. Their focus is on young players and talent development.

They've quickly built one of the best youth programs in German football.

When you want to truly become self-sufficient and you get an offer for a player that is arguably more than double what he's actually worth, you take that shit.

Hoffenheim isn't like Chelsea who just talks shit about becoming self-sufficient.

Remember that shit? When Abramowich took over, Chelsea claimed they would just use his money until the club could operate on football revenue alone.

How long ago was that???

Bayern made Hoffenheim a very generous offer for a player Hoffenheim wasn't going to be able to hold on to anyhow.

How many other clubs do you know who have been able to buy a player for 1M Euros, then turn around and sell him not three years later for 15M Euros??

Luiz Gustavo is a pretty good player. But he isn't worth 15M Euros.

Bayern is going to find that out.

I'm not saying Gustavo is going to "bomb" there.

But I am saying they're going to see that he isn't worth 15M Euros.

Hoffenheim isn't going to fall apart without Luiz Gustavo.

They'll put one of their kids in there and keep right on going.

Losing Rangnick? That might hurt more.

But reports are flying that Rangnick might have been on the way out anyhow......


Long story short?

Cris, Hoffenheim took the offer because it was just good business.

Simple as that.

 

He will help Bayern. No doubt about that.

Becoming their midfield leader? I don't know.

And I'll bet many of the "members of the Bayern forum" you refer to also still think Breno is going to become one of the best defenders in the world.......


As stated, Luiz Gustavo will help Bayern.

But at this time, the guy isn't worth 15M Euros.

He just isn't.


However, this is the difference between Bayern and most other German clubs.

If BVB bought Luiz Gustavo for 15M Euros, I'd be here ripping BVB management for having lost their f#cking minds.

But Bayern can overpay for a guy who will merely fill a hole.

Most others can't.

 

I got this from "Bild" earlier today:


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1899 Hoffenheim sponsor Dietmar Hopp is coming under ever-increasing criticism. The German Football League (DFL) is now even investigating the sale of Luiz Gustavo to German record champions Bayern München.



A DFL statement read: "The DFL is in contact with 1899 Hoffenheim management on this issue. Hoffenheim has promised to provide requested transfer documentation.”



Hopp is charged with being instrumental in the Gustavo transfer despite having no operational authority at the club. Hopp traveled to Munich with 1899 Hoffenheim manager Ernst Tanner to negotiate terms of the transfer. Bayern München chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge also explicitly praised Hopp on the conduct of the negotiations.



Rummenigge said, “We again would like to thank Hoffenheim sponsor Dietmar Hopp, who allowed this transfer to happen.”



This is contrary to German football’s “50+1” rule explicitly forbidding ownership of football clubs.



Hannover ’s president Martin Kind (why the f#ck would he be running his mouth, I don’t know) said, “The decision-making structure in Hoffenheim is definitely different than the rules require. Whenever a club is in trouble or is structured like Hoffenheim, there will always be rule circumvention.”

 

This is true.

I just find it hilarious that they're willing to give Breno all the time in the world and some of them still talk shit about Nuri Sahin.

But then again, I know who those hypocrites are. You are not one of them.

 

Liverpool Names Steve Clarke As First Team Coach



Liverpool have appointed former Chelsea and West Ham assistant Steve Clarke as their first team coach.

Clarke, 47, represents Liverpool's first major change since new manager Kenny Dalglish took over from former boss Roy Hodgson on Saturday.

Dalglish said: "Steve is a great addition to our team and I'm delighted we've been able to bring him in.


Click here for the rest of the story at BBC Football.



***I think this is a f#cking SUPERB move by LFC. This is a guy who should have credibility with the team and the supporters.

 

Well, I don't have any soft spot for them, but I think this is a great move.

I don't think this is the answer to their problems.

I do believe it is a nice first step to solving the part of the problem though.