Other MLS games and Teams/Players [R]

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by UcIceD2011, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Seattle beats Portland. No room for error in the west.
     
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  2. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    We're already in a lot of trouble. We have played the most games of the teams around us. Seattle has 2 less games played and Portland has 3 more to play just to catch up to us. Vancouver is also only 1 point behind us with a game in hand too.

    ONLY good news here is we still have to play RSL, Seattle, and Vancouver. Those need to be wins or else we are out of the playoffs.
     
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  3. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's so tight in looking at the standings. Gulp. I'd like to have a post season to care about.
     
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  4. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Dempsey retires pretty abruptly...The season is almost over so I don't understand why this timing?

    Donovan's record somehow stays in tact as well. I fully thought when Donovan retired all those years ago, his record would get crushed by Dempsey.
     
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  5. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When your body lets you down... it lets you down.

    He was a punk. But when he was representing the USA he was our punk. :)
     
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  6. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Yea I have a feeling his body just gave up on him. The way Dempsey plays means he doesn't really need speed to be effective. He is a good player who finds space, and can score goals from anywhere. This season he has had it rough. Huge drop off in quality, but I wasn't expecting him to retire just yet.
     
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  7. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to imagine MLS and the national team without Clint Dempsey. Time marches on...
     
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  8. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    When I first saw the headline I thought it was the typical at the end fo the season. Effective immediately is odd.

    Was never the biggest Dempsey fan, but he scored a game winning goal away to United to finally win at Old Trafford after decades. Also a late game tying goal the same season against United. That will always be special.
     
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  9. 7E23

    7E23 Member+

    Jul 7, 2008
    Long Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember watching him play earlier this season against the LAFChivas, he looked like he did not want to be there.

    When he was playing with Obafemi Martins, that was a scary combination. They played off each other so well, I was relieved when Martins left Seattle.
     
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  10. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another end of an era. Kinda neat that D&D ended on the same amount of goals.

    Can't believe Beaz outlasted both.
     
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  11. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dempsey's retiring marks the end of a US era. An undisputed all-time great as far as American soccer players go; one of the best to don the US jersey, featured in some of the best USMNT achievements and had a distinguished club career, including more than 200 PL appearances. I would stop short of calling him a US legend, though 50+ PL goals is pretty damned impressive. It's a shame he finished out his international career amid such inauspicious circumstances, culminating in WC failure but didn't have much to do with that.
     
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  12. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #8212 MPNumber9, Aug 30, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2018
    With that said, with both players now retired, how did their careers stack up?

    For the US - Head to Head (*indicates player holds all-time record):
    All time goals -- Tied (57)*
    All time assists -- Donovan (58)*
    All time appearances -- Donovan (157)
    Most goals in a game -- Donovan (4)*
    Most assists in a game -- Donovan (3, twice)*
    Most goals in a season -- Tied (9)*
    Most assists in a season -- Donovan (10)*
    Most pts in a season -- Donovan (24, 8 G, 8 A)*
    Most consecutive apps scoring a goal -- Donovan (4, twice)*
    Most consecutive apps with an assist -- Donovan (4, twice)*
    Hat tricks -- Donovan (3, vs. Cuba, Ecuador, Scotland)*

    Major titles -- Donovan (4 Gold Cups)*
    World Cup goals -- Donovan (5)*


    For two guys to be considered in contention for GOAT status, Dempsey never exceeded Donovan in a single category when it came to playing for the US and Donovan holds some records Dempsey never came close to touching. Dempsey also retired having never scored a single goal against Mexico. For club it gets more interesting, mostly because Donovan played very little at the top level, while Dempsey had some solid accomplishments in a top league.

    For club (*indicates player holds all-time record for American players):

    Major titles (overall)
    Donovan (6x MLS Cup*, 2x SS, 1x Open Cup)
    Dempsey (1x MLS Cup, 1x SS, 1x Open Cup)
    (Fun note on this one; Donovan holds both SS's from the leagues only two balanced-schedule seasons. Also, Dempsey did not play in the playoffs or final the season Seattle won their cup, due to a heart condition)

    MLS
    All time goals - Donovan (145)*
    All time assists - Donovan (136)*
    League Golden Boot -- Donovan (1)
    League MVP / POTY -- Donovan (1)

    League Best XI -- Donovan (7x)*
    Hat tricks - Donovan (5)*
    Club Golden Boot -- Donovan (7x)
    Club MVP / POTY - Donovan (4x)
    All time club goals - Donovan (113, Galaxy)
    All time club assists - Donovan (107, Galaxy)

    Top League

    All time goals - Dempsey (57, Premier League)*
    All time assists - Dempsey (??, Premier League)*
    Hat tricks - Dempsey (2, Premier League, FA Cup)*
    Club Golden Boot -- Dempsey (2x, Premier League)*
    Club MVP / POTY - Dempsey (2x, Premier League)

    Head-to-Head Results
    NE Revolution vs. LA Galaxy, MLS Cup 2005 - (Donovan/Galaxy, 0 - 1)
    Everton FC vs. Fulham FC, FA Cup Fourth Round 2012 - (Donovan/Everton, 2 - 1)
    Seattle Sounders FC vs. LA Galaxy, 2014 Reg. Season [result decided SS winner) - (Dempsey/Seattle, 2-0)

    Seattle Sounders FC vs. LA Galaxy, 2014 Conference Final (Donovan/Galaxy, agg. 2-2 on away goals)
     
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  13. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I consider Donovan #1 and Dempsey #1b.

    Dempsey was a different player than Donovan, and it worked for the US. Donovan was more of an all around great player, whereas Dempsey was always a hard nose poacher.
     
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  14. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Dempsey, particularly from maybe 2012 on, was more deadly in the box. It seemed for awhile that if you got the ball to him anywhere in the box, he'd finish. Over the same time, LD was getting used to being more provider. But overall, I think Donovan was in another class.

    The odd thing is Dempsey retires 2 goals away from Sounders' all-time goal scorer. While the US record is a longshot at this point, the Sounders record is probably within grasp.
     
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  15. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    The handwriting was on the wall, as long as Seattle is in the playoff hunt, Clint wasn't going to see the field. He had 1 goal and 1 assist in the equivalent of 10 games this year.
     
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  16. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    DCU upsets ATL, scoring 3 times, each against the run of the play. Don’t hate me for saying this but fun game to watch. Rooney has no speed left and even his shot is suspect but damn he can pass. Acosta and turn-coat Arriola with great games.
    For Atlanta - Almiron again showed he is MLS’s fastest player with the ball at his feet - a la Donovan in his prime. But unlike Donovan his shooting is hilariously bad at times. Guy has a mental block in front of the goal. He has 9 on the season but that’s only because he’s taken four million shots.
     
  17. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    So Pavon with speed? ;)
     
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  18. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I think I owe Rooney an apology. He has revitalized DC completely. He seems to really be working with that team, and is doing significantly better than our #10.

    If DC can get 3-4 years of this from Rooney, I could see him being their Keane. He really has changed DC for the better.
     
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  19. kaburu

    kaburu Member+

    Jul 12, 2009
    los angeles
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Beakmon FC

    Beakmon FC Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Jan 10, 2002
    The OC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. WarGalaxy

    WarGalaxy Member+

    May 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    Actually, I dislike New England more than any other team except LAFC, so their collapse is fine with me. I have always had the opinion that Robert Kraft is one of the cheap owners holding MLS back.
     
  23. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think you are misusing the word "opinion." ;)
     
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  24. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Robert Kraft probably shares your view.

    When I saw the presentation after the Patriots game where they reached the 2018 Superbowl (I believe it was officially called Superbowl XXIXIMIXIXMXIXIXMMIXVVIXMXIM) and he was introduced as "the best team owner is sports", I believe I actually blurted out without thinking "Oh **** off!!!!".

    He clearly cares about the Patriots, whereas the Revs are a thing to do with his stadium during the off-season.
     
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  25. hav77

    hav77 Member+

    May 31, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I hear that 3/4 of the Revs operating budget is currently being used to pay Tom.
     
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