Pre-match: Oranje - Japan Oefenmatch [R]

What do you want me to say? You had 30 good minutes in a friendly while Mendes sa Silva was playing and Sneijder lost his cool? Your players already have played half their competition games, right? Ours are still lacking some gamefitness and you still had exhausted players. That's kind of a compliment to the Dutch side.

Yes, 3-0 better

 

lol what? Please... what have I forced down your throat? I made fun of Japans' inability to pose a threat in response to what I assumed was some banter -- and then you and your buddies managed to even take offense at that !!
Wow.

NEWSLFASH: I didn't bring this topic up -- this topic being why I wanted to see the match again. YOU DID. I corrected you. End of conversation.

MmmmmmK. You're acting as if there some kind of disagreement here.

 

Don't make me quote your derogatory comments. You're well aware what you said about us, 'bunch'.

I hope so. Now get back to your own forum pls.

You're not using banter, you're plainly insulting us.

 

You mean comments like these?

I'll leave you with a word of the day: Hypocrisy.

 

As humans we're ambiguous lifeforms prone to hypocricy. There isn't a soul who's not subject to this.

 

Did you get upset? I'm am me, not some brit or german, accept me for who I am and don't try to mold me in something to your own liking, thanks.

 

Nor do we particularly care

Extremely good??!!! Puhllease
You outplayed us for 1/2 hour, yet you still have nothing to show for it

Who????!!!

Ahh, here we go with the excuses

Going by that it should be 10 vs 10, remember that late tackle on our keeper (Velthuizen)??! Also red-card worthy

No shit

What effort??? 30 minutes of decent play??
You still lost 3-0, and it couldve easily been 4 or 5-0

And he finishes it with a semi-compliment and a smiley.

Really, we dont care what you think of us. We also dont care much about friendlies.
Apparently you do though and it appears you are sore losers as well. You dont see us invading your forum do you??

Now run along and stop bothering us

 

We dont care what you post. Please leave!

Blah...blah....blah

We were upset about the serious foul on Velthuizen also.

Now run along and say bye-bye

 

You missed the banter.

 

Seriously I noticed that on the Japanese forum too, you people have the biggest inferiority complex I have ever encountered in football. For the tenth time, the Dutch are so self-obsessed that they couldn't give a shite who they're playing, they just analyse their own performance.

Maybe the Japanese can learn a thing or two from that. Take some pride in your national team and stop worrying about what everybody else thinks of it.

 

I'm done with this Japanese muppet.

You can take over, Johan

 

First of all you come into the Dutch forum trolling (yes, you are semi-trolling).
Second of all you are a mod in the Japan forum, you have no power here
And third of all, I was initially being respectful until you guys kept whining on and on. Now you two have become annoying trolls.

Sheesh, all this over a stupid friendly that nobody in Holland really cares about. I probably wouldve forgotten about the game if you hadnt kept reminding us of it.

Oh and btw 3-0

 

Listen I mean no disrespect, but you should stop taking this so personally. Sneijder is a twat and committed a bad foul. That wasn't because he disrespects the Japanese or disliked his opponent (he probably didn't even have a clue who his opponent was), but because he's a twat who acted out because he got frustrated over his own bad play. That is all there was to it. I fear you're being far too philosophical about all of this.

 

If you're wondering why we are re-acting in such an alleged fashion you should take a closer look to why we seem on edge. There is one noted person who caused some turmoil when others disagreed with him.

If you were an unbiased mod you would at least try to convince scotch to tone it down in order to prevent him from insulting posters in a thread not native to him. We don't invade the japanese board degenerating their efforts against The Netherlands. So why do we have to accept trolling from Scotch:

 

I do watch games double on very few occasions to check tactics and just because I enjoy Orange. To get back on topic and wrap up the alternitive interaction that has taken place in the last contributions in this trhread I would say that I have encountered a poster on the Japan thread that became mad when I hinted Holland didn't make a single action off ball which points at laziness.

To make this a valueble look back for analyses you must not disregard what is analysed from the dutch side. You can't operate internationally with 0 off ball movement. It's something Jaap Stam was pretty pissed about. The other commentator just could not believe it and kept pointing out you have to give it all in a full stadium.

The Japan dominance in midfield was credit to the good tecnical on ball Japanese on midfield and the bad handeling from a normal bench warmer Mendes da Silva. Day and night difference with v Bommel. You will see remarks on the Scotland game and in the Orange forum that the conclusions that are taken from the two games, is that v Bommel is massive for us. Bigger than Lampard for England I dare to say.

I have made a post on the Japan forum about the possiblity off mental collapse by the Japanese, which could be stealhted as condition problem. The collapse came with the first goal. A goal wich came from persoanal quality. The ball from Elia to v Persie was wrong he admitted after the game. He intended to play him in the feet but it landed on his chest. He had to control that and shoot in a second. He did. Good class goal. The possibility for the goal came from Elia who was not manmarked as Robben as I have understood. Don't send a rightback with offensive duty's away when the winger is all he can handle.

After that Japan collapsed and in the last 5 minutes there was room for two extra goals to make it 5-0. They were not themselves anymore. Maybe inject yourselve with the Guus Hiddink factor to care less about a goal. Don't start to refocus after a blow on whats can go wrong more, but stay the course.

Also Honda is no winger and he is a guy with cajones. Those are the guys who can win big games for you. Don't burn him down because he has self confidence. Make a team with him. 4-4-2 he should play as second striker. Add to that the striker you missed and menatal strenght and Japan can go trough a group stage at the WC.

 

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18756382&postcount=129

Let people decide themselves whose trolling whom here.
Thankyou, and have a good day.

 

And have you reprimanded Scotch17??? No, you havent!! That means you're covering for your own countryman, and therefore you shouldnt be a mod.

That works both ways, if you give us respect you will get it in return.
Whining on and on in the Dutch forum is not being very respectful

 

Oh good, does that mean you're leaving??!!
Dont let the screendoor hit you on the way out

Now shoosh...

Bye bye