Orange, the rebuild starts now

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I honestly think even Valverde can’t break FDJ :)

    I see him being recognised as one of the best two or three midfielders in the coming years ... along with KDB and ...,
     
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  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
     
  3. Bran

    Bran Member

    Nov 18, 2010
    Nijmegen
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #1603 Bran, Jun 12, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2019

    Word. One thing I always disliked about us Dutch is that we lack a backbone and start to complain and get all pessimistic at the first setback. So much doom and gloom on Dutch social media already, makes you think we have to face Spain instead of Northern Ireland..... Northern Ireland lost every single match in the nations league and is only on top because it has faced all the weakest teams already. Even with our rubbish offence, we will beat them easily. And if we don't, we don't deserve to go the euros.
     
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  4. If these donot score I guess de Ligt and The Virgil will storm the gates and become the unlikely Euro topscorer dudes:)
     
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  5. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    on de Jong
    santos instructed William Carvalho, Danilo Pereira, Bruno Fernandes every time de Jong came into their part of the pitch to stick to him like glue, we never saw holland creat one decent chance in the 1st hour of the game
     
  6. Neeskens78

    Neeskens78 New Member

    Oct 4, 2016
    That is the hallmark of a great player though isn't it, being able to make chances even though you are being well looked after by the opposition?

    Every great player can expect special attention from the opposing side - what sort of pressure and marking do you think Messi, Ronald, Ronaldhino etc were/are under?
     
  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This was more a result of the Dutch playing a deep double pivot with de Roon joining de Jong. de Roon is not the best at ball distribution and as an outlet did not add much to the game. Tactically it would have been better to have a single pivot with van de Beek in the match instead. This would have been a more dynamic MF and would have cause more problems for Portugal.
     
  8. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    I saw this on Twitter... a list of young talents for striker position, sorted by age.

    Sam Lammers (22)
    Ferdy Druijf (21)
    Donyell Malen (20)
    Dylan Vente (20)
    Nick Venema (20)
    Joel Piroe (19)
    Thomas Buitink (18)
    Joshua Zirkzee (18)
    Myron Boadu (18)
    Daishawn Redan (18)
    Brian Brobbey (17)
    Naoufal Bannis (17)


    The good news is that the options are plenty. The not-so-good news is that, as it stands today, none of them seem to realistically have a clear path to be in the starting lineup (or getting consistent first-team minutes) at their respective teams next season... which is to me is a minimum qualification to be in the conversation for the Senior NT. That being said, this transfer season is just beginning, so many things will unfold in next couple months.

    Buitink is probably the closest one? He can challenge the aging Matavz for a starting role. Boadu may surprise, he was the first option and looked really good before his injury. Maybe Lammers and Malen force for a loan in order to get playing time if PSV's current trio stay put? Redan is rumored to force his way out from Chelsea so a lot depends on where he lands.
     
  9. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    And how many pivots did Portugal play with hey
     
  10. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Its a pity how things have turned out for zivkovic. This could have been his chance if he would have stuck around.His salary was a big issue which resulted in many clubs not wanting him. Should have taken a pay cut and moved back to groningen or even Utrecht. More of a situation where beggers want to be chooses.
     
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  11. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm surprised that Kaj Serhuis was not on the young striker list. He has a chance at Groningen to prove his worth. He certainly scored goals when he was in the Ajax youth system. Also notably missing is future Ajax star, Denzel Darko, who got the award for goal of the month in May!!!!!

     
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  12. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Yep, good point on Sierhuis. Should be on the list. If he’s staying with Groningen, he may increase his stock!!
     
  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He is on loan for this season and Ajax retain his rights.
     
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  14. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think brobbery will beat him to ajax first team if he continues his form with jong ajax.

    Between that how often we see players returning from loan spells at ajax. Matusiwa was also on loan at De Graafschap and has signed for groningen which makes it more conclusive that sooner or later sierhuis will also be sold.
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Where they all under that pressure in midfield though ??
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    One thing that has not been mentioned is what a good job they did defending CR7. He really was not much of a danger the other night.
     
  17. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Yes,

    shame you left the other players open coz you trying to stop Ronaldo
     
  18. You know, nothing stops the KNVB from putting Miedema on the pitch with the Orange Lions. There's nothing in the rules that prevent us from doing so. She shoots better than what the men have been doing the last three matches.
     
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  19. We did win a world title soccer today


    Nederland pakt opnieuw wereldtitel robotvoetbal met ‘Leeuwinnen’

    updateNederland heeft vandaag in Sydney de wereldtitel robotvoetbal gewonnen. De ploeg Tech United uit Eindhoven won met de ‘robotleeuwinnen’ de finale van het toernooi RoboCup met 6-4 van team Water, de Chinese robots.

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    Nederland heeft vandaag in Sydney de wereldtitel robotvoetbal geprolongeerd. De ploeg uit Eindhoven won in de finale met 6-4 van de Chinese robots. © EPA
     
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  20. Vermeer redt Feyenoord door penalty van Odgaard te keren

    Kenneth in the Orange goal....ASAP
     
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    Kenneth in the Orange goal....ASAP
     
  22. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Give him some time to get use to the new life. Vs Bulgaria
     
  23. o_O....:D.....:p......:ROFLMAO:
     

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