Orange, the rebuild starts now

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Cazlon

    Cazlon Member

    Aug 17, 2005
    Pretoria/Berlin
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Unfortunately Dilrosun has been pretty much continuously injured since his debut for you guys. He tore a muscle in that game, then had problems with the back and now the muscle injury is causing problems again.

    Doesn't look like he will feature at all in the rest of the season in Germany.

    Source ( in German ): https://www.berliner-kurier.de/spor...leidet-jeff-dilrosun-heute-besonders-32269054
     
  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Babel scored for Fulham today in a losing 4-1 cause
     
  3. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Kluivert with 2 assists today.

    I still dont think he's ready for Oranje though
     
  4. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Groeneveld scored against anderlecht as well. Club brugge winning 3-2
     
  5. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    does anyone else think england will be the next team to produce the golden generation. i mean rashford,Sancho,Sterling,Hudson odi, foden, Alexander-Arnold,gomez, Loftus Cheek,mount,Rice,Chilwell,stones. I think the only thing they need maybe is upgrade striker to that of kane.at international level kane hasnt been lethal compared to as at club level. but again the recent form of their wingers could well be decisive if he he not on target or rashford could well be an option up front. Nation Cup win will defintely pave the way for this.

    for NT, there is a possibility there could be a golden generation in making between22--28 especially when the guys who moved abroad at an early age get a shot at top flight.obviously De Ligt and frenkie will be there.Pierie move to Ajax is also a top prospect in making.schuurs and van drongelen wont be much behind respectively. others like sandler, Hoever, bakker if they make it to the their respective first teams should add to list

    in midfield gravenberch,eiting,lang would become main stay in ajax mid with naci unuvar on the horizon. van der beek could be at top club as well with Reis whom barcelona has been closing monitoring also in the mix. even a loan in la liga could be a step stone him. Orkun Kokcu would be starter at feyenoord and xavi simons hovering in the middle as well.

    upfront there would be bombardment. Im very much looking forward to seeing PSV contingent next season and I hope van bommel wont disappoint in unleashing these guys. Lammers, Gakpo,Ihattaren,Malen. adekanye is destined to leave liverpool on his way to Lazio to kick start top flight in serie A. out of all the wingers I rate him the best and with highest ceiling. juan familia Castillo is also on his way out from chelsea. Tahith Chong could be as well on loan. question mark on where but defintely they have high ceiling as well. stengs and boadu by then would be out of AZ and probably playing abroad or if not in top 3. kluivert could be a regular at Roma with ever improving performance then there are others like redan, brobbery, venema, vente, zirkzee, sierhuis, Piroe who all could well be playing in top flight either in eredivisie or abroad.
     
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  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    AJAX AMSTERDAM

    xxx
     
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  7. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    What has Chong to make it at top level? He seems a rather poor footballer to me.
     
  8. And if he's not they will turn him into one in the epl....as with many other Dutch kids.
    I donot want anybody in an Orange shirt who hasnot gotten submerged in the Eredivisie and Dutch soccer philosophy.
     
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  9. It could be that the English profit if Ajax and Liverpool go into the final as that is scheduled june the 1st.
    Five days later we play in the NL against England, so we get less rest and have less time to prepare for the match.
     
  10. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I thought about this myself. On the other hand, your players would be full of confidence.
     
  11. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    #1338 TopBanana10, May 1, 2019
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
    Most England fans have been very impressed by The Orange recently. You have some great young players coming through; De Jong, De Beek and De Ligt not to mention established players such as Van Dijk, Wijnaldum and Memphis.

    It’s a great mixture and getting even better.

    The key questions for me are, can we get past your formidable defence? How can we stop The Orange controlling midfield? Not easy tasks.
     
  12. Revenge for this against England on June the 6th.
     
  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think there are eleven players on the English NT that will be in the Champions League final while only two Dutch players will be there.
     
  14. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Jadon Sancho is dangerous. Same as Sterling, Barkley, Lingard and Rashford.
    As NT, England can choke.:cool:
     
  15. Frysk Bloed

    Frysk Bloed Member

    Sep 6, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Though those two players are both better than any English player there.
     
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  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Nations League Complete voorselectie:
    Patrick van Aanholt
    Nathan Aké
    Ryan Babel
    Donny van de Beek
    Steven Berghuis
    Steven Bergwijn
    Marco Bizot
    Daley Blind
    Jasper Cillessen
    Virgil van Dijk
    Denzel Dumfries
    Frenkie de Jong
    Luuk de Jong
    Terrence Kongolo
    Matthijs de Ligt
    Memphis Depay
    Quincy Promes
    Davy Pröpper
    Marten de Roon
    Pablo Rosario
    Kevin Strootman
    Kenny Tete
    Kenneth Vermeer
    Tonny Vilhena
    Stefan de Vrij
    Wout Weghorst
    Georginio Wijnaldum
    Jeroen Zoet
     
  17. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Largely the same squad as before, rather disappointing :rolleyes: Either Koeman became lazy to scout, or he has found his "comfort" team. I personally believe new bloods are needed not only to test young players, but also to keep the current members from being complacent.

    A few U21's that I would at least include in the provisional:

    Steng… nice comeback from horrifying injury
    Koopmeiners... poor man's Frenkie De Jong, set-piece specialist
    Reis... voted best Groningen player this season
    Kik Pierie… strong display all season, can fill in LB
     
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  18. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I might also add Veltman who has been superb for Ajax since his return and can solve the RB defensive issues.
    Not to mention Danjuma, who can also be very important for Oranje in the next few years.
     
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  19. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Squad confirmed. Out: Zoet, Kongolo, Tete, Rosario, Berghuis and Weghorst.

    Goalkeepers: Jasper Cillessen (Barcelona), Marco Bizot (AZ), Kenneth Vermeer (Feyenoord)

    Defenders: Patrick van Aanholt (Crystal Palace), Nathan Ake (AFC Bournemouth), Daley Blind (Ajax), Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool), Denzel Dumfries (PSV), Hans Hateboer (Atalanta Bergamo), Matthijs de Ligt (Ajax), Stefan de Vrij (Internazionale)

    Midfielders: Donny van de Beek (Ajax), Frenkie de Jong (Ajax), Davy Pröpper (Brighton & Hove Albion), Marten de Roon (Atalanta Bergamo), Kevin Strootman (Olympique Marseille), Tonny Vilhena (Feyenoord), Georginio Wijnaldum (Liverpool)

    Attackers: Ryan Babel (Fulham), Steven Bergwijn (PSV), Memphis Depay (Olympique Lyon), Luuk de Jong (PSV), Quincy Promes (Sevilla)
     
  20. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I wouldnt play cillesen, if I was koeman. He was very rusty vs valencia.
     
  21. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Koeman refused to rule out the possibility of being Barca coach next season.
    I hope he was just toying with the journalists. I truly believe leaving your home country's NT for a club is kinda shameful. :thumbsdown:
     
  22. Frysk Bloed

    Frysk Bloed Member

    Sep 6, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    What I hope to see:

    Cillessen
    Dumfries - de Vrij - van Dijk - van Aanholt
    de Jong
    van de Beek - Wijnaldum
    Bergwijn - Memphis - Promes​

    Unfortunately Babel will probably be involved and Blind will probably play over van Aanholt.
     

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