Okay, I'll try one more time. The humor is not in the ********ing of Condi Rice or in punching her in the face as an act. The humor is in the "I can't believe you went there, that's nuts". And once again, there was no rape. You and the media are jumping to that conclusion to support your argument. As for the home run analogy, Mark McGwire = Carlos Mencia
First of all, as I made clear in the Imus threads, I don't think it matters whether the jokes are funny or not. We've entered dangerous territory when we start talking about wether or not an entire topic is off-limits to comedians. No topic is off-limits, ever. At the same time, you're also conveniently disregarding the context and actual content of the O&A remarks. If you want to talk about whether a joke was funny or offensive as a matter of personal taste, go ahead. But in that case it's only fair to address the actual joke.
The holocaust wasn't make believe. But if you want to go in that direction, is this funny? [youtube]Vb3IMTJjzfo[/youtube]
reach. reach reach reach. Rape actually happened to someone I love more than anything in the world. I don't find it funny, but I fail to see how or why people can't laugh at this bit. Like Matt said, you're trying your hardest to say it was about rape despite evidence to the contrary.
I think the really offensive thing here was is that they took a mentally unstable person and put him on the air, hoping he'd say some ludicrous stuff. That bothers me more than the actual content. If they want to make rape jokes about prominent women, they should do it themselves, and not use a mentally unstable homeless person as a proxy.
Maybe it was posted in here before, but if it was, I didn't remember. My reaction: what kind of reaction did they THINK they were going to get? The Nobel Prize for Literature? There is no JOKE there. It was like Ann Coulter talking about poisoning Stephen Breyer (or whichever Justice it was). It's just "I hate so-and-so, a LOT." There are ways you could conceivably save the bit - maybe "I'd like to force Condi Rice to dress up as an altarboy and sing the Jetsons theme," or something totally absurdist - but just saying "I'd like to ******** Condi" isn't going to fly on its own. Another reason the bit flopped was the expression of rape as a means to punish a powerful woman. Forcing sex on Dick Cheney, for example, would be funny. This is just sad. It doesn't have anything to do with Rice or what she stands for, otherwise why follow up with Laura Bush and the Queen? It's just that they're famous women. Again, there's no joke there. Unless the joke is "They're so unattractive! And yet, I'm fantasizing about sex with them!" But then, Dick Cheney also would work much better there. Maybe O&A were fired because they showed shocking incompetence for allegedly professional entertainers.
Since when was it a bit? They didn't just drag this bum off the street and throw him on the air. He's a fan of the show and knows they broadcast there, hence why he met them for the walk over. How is one supposed to know a joke doesn't work unless they try?
Maybe O&A were fired because they showed shocking incompetence for allegedly professional entertainers.
But they weren't. I'd love to believe that they were, but it's not the case. They've been unfunny for years now. It was never a problem, apparently.
O&A have a thing for bums. They took a busload of them to the Short Hills Mall (a fancy mall) around Xmas time and let them go on a shopping spree. Not sure what the point was but it got them headlines of course.
You can't say bum. He is a Homeless-American or a person of less than satisfactory living conditions. And O&A do the homeless shopping spree for two reasons. 1) To shock and offend uppity ass whitey in the suburbs 2) To help their homeless friends by getting them new coats, sneakers, etc.
How did the homeless guy benefit from this? And please don't tell me buying him a hamburger somehow makes up for using the man. In that respect, putting him on the air is a slightly more civilized version of Bumfights.
They give him a shower. They buy him food. They give him some cash and alittle bit of self respect. Like I said, it's not use if someone agrees to something. Unless you thing homeless people are lesser human beings that are unable to do anything for themselves, in which I would have to disagree. Are you saying that he's better off alone on the street without any of those things? Do you think that O&A owe him a house or something?